thers two little marks on the cam tower, and two marks on the cam sprocket. usually they dont line up "dot to dot" make sure your at top dead center, and check! the right side line on the sprocket should down a little than the line on the cam tower. the left should be just the oppisite, the line on the cam will be a little higher than the line on the cam tower. and when you think you have it turn the motor over by hand to feel if anything hits. never pull start it if you dont know its in time or not. that could end with bad results! hope this helps and good luck!!!
Wont start, Won't Idle.
Well, rechecked the timing and adjusted it 1 tooth then found another knotch on the other side of the sprocket so we turned it around and lined it up with that one. Still wont start by itself, push started it and it wouldn't idle and ran "funny" Could this be timing issues? It was alligned all perfectly, should it maybe be 1 tooth off up or down? What else could this be
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thers two little marks on the cam tower, and two marks on the cam sprocket. usually they dont line up "dot to dot" make sure your at top dead center, and check! the right side line on the sprocket should down a little than the line on the cam tower. the left should be just the oppisite, the line on the cam will be a little higher than the line on the cam tower. and when you think you have it turn the motor over by hand to feel if anything hits. never pull start it if you dont know its in time or not. that could end with bad results! hope this helps and good luck!!!
Well, rechecked the timing and adjusted it 1 tooth then found another knotch on the other side of the sprocket so we turned it around and lined it up with that one. Still wont start by itself, push started it and it wouldn't idle and ran "funny" Could this be timing issues? It was alligned all perfectly, should it maybe be 1 tooth off up or down? What else could this be[/b]
thers two little marks on the cam tower, and two marks on the cam sprocket. usually they dont line up "dot to dot" make sure your at top dead center, and check! the right side line on the sprocket should down a little than the line on the cam tower. the left should be just the oppisite, the line on the cam will be a little higher than the line on the cam tower. and when you think you have it turn the motor over by hand to feel if anything hits. never pull start it if you dont know its in time or not. that could end with bad results! hope this helps and good luck!!!
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plus there are 2 dots on the right side one is on the nut and the other is on the gear it is small gets full of oil...
I believe the timing is all on now based on soyos description, thn i snapped YET ANOTHER head bolt. This is getting rediculous, snapped 2 bolts in 2 days. It wasnt even my fault this time!!!!!!!
I believe the timing is all on now based on soyos description, thn i snapped YET ANOTHER head bolt. This is getting rediculous, snapped 2 bolts in 2 days. It wasnt even my fault this time!!!!!!![/b]
Damn?
Been there. Not much force needed to snap them.I believe the timing is all on now based on soyos description, thn i snapped YET ANOTHER head bolt. This is getting rediculous, snapped 2 bolts in 2 days. It wasnt even my fault this time!!!!!!![/b]
Damn?
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Are you torquing them or just till you think its tight?
Can someone please help me with timing. For 06+ the little arrow on the right side where you turn it to TDC is like facing down at an angle, How do you align the dot with it. Also how should the line be compared to the arrow on the cam sprocket? I put it like 1 tooth above the line which Soyo recommended, still wont fire up, guess im going to go down 1 now.
are you lining up the mark on the flywheel with the line on the side case?? to get you where you need to be do this, take the spark plug out, put a long rod or screwdriver in the hole. turn over the motor till the screwriver is all the way to the top, then take the little cap off on the flywheel cover you should see alittle line on the flywheel, there is also a little "indention" on the bottom of the threads in the hole that is on the case. you might have to turn the motor A LITTLE either way to line them up! make sure the screwdriver is still up. if the lines are lined up and the screwdriver is up then you are at top dead center! check to see where you are at now then go off of what i said earlier! if you cant get it you can call me and i can see what i can do over the phone while your doing it!! 618 927 4960 my name is jerod, hope this makes sense.Can someone please help me with timing. For 06+ the little arrow on the right side where you turn it to TDC is like facing down at an angle, How do you align the dot with it. Also how should the line be compared to the arrow on the cam sprocket? I put it like 1 tooth above the line which Soyo recommended, still wont fire up, guess im going to go down 1 now.[/b]
Never did the screwdriver thing, but I aligned the little dot on the right side as best as I could with the arrow but theres different angles u can look at it and be aligned so I cant tell, I just looked dead at it even and measured it as best as i could and i was off 1 tooth so I re adjusted now waiting for loctite to dry and try again.are you lining up the mark on the flywheel with the line on the side case?? to get you where you need to be do this, take the spark plug out, put a long rod or screwdriver in the hole. turn over the motor till the screwriver is all the way to the top, then take the little cap off on the flywheel cover you should see alittle line on the flywheel, there is also a little "indention" on the bottom of the threads in the hole that is on the case. you might have to turn the motor A LITTLE either way to line them up! make sure the screwdriver is still up. if the lines are lined up and the screwdriver is up then you are at top dead center! check to see where you are at now then go off of what i said earlier! if you cant get it you can call me and i can see what i can do over the phone while your doing it!! 618 927 4960 my name is jerod, hope this makes sense.Can someone please help me with timing. For 06+ the little arrow on the right side where you turn it to TDC is like facing down at an angle, How do you align the dot with it. Also how should the line be compared to the arrow on the cam sprocket? I put it like 1 tooth above the line which Soyo recommended, still wont fire up, guess im going to go down 1 now.[/b]
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you cant see if your top dead center by the cam you have to look down at the flywheel marks!!! but see if you got it. the screw driver thing is just to make sure!! good luck!Never did the screwdriver thing, but I aligned the little dot on the right side as best as I could with the arrow but theres different angles u can look at it and be aligned so I cant tell, I just looked dead at it even and measured it as best as i could and i was off 1 tooth so I re adjusted now waiting for loctite to dry and try again.are you lining up the mark on the flywheel with the line on the side case?? to get you where you need to be do this, take the spark plug out, put a long rod or screwdriver in the hole. turn over the motor till the screwriver is all the way to the top, then take the little cap off on the flywheel cover you should see alittle line on the flywheel, there is also a little "indention" on the bottom of the threads in the hole that is on the case. you might have to turn the motor A LITTLE either way to line them up! make sure the screwdriver is still up. if the lines are lined up and the screwdriver is up then you are at top dead center! check to see where you are at now then go off of what i said earlier! if you cant get it you can call me and i can see what i can do over the phone while your doing it!! 618 927 4960 my name is jerod, hope this makes sense.Can someone please help me with timing. For 06+ the little arrow on the right side where you turn it to TDC is like facing down at an angle, How do you align the dot with it. Also how should the line be compared to the arrow on the cam sprocket? I put it like 1 tooth above the line which Soyo recommended, still wont fire up, guess im going to go down 1 now.[/b]
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Ok bike wants to start but we think the idle is off as it was adjusted quite alot while it was down, can anyone tell me how to adjust it till its alittle above factory? Maybe how many turns from all the way right or left.
Ok bike wants to start but we think the idle is off as it was adjusted quite alot while it was down, can anyone tell me how to adjust it till its alittle above factory? Maybe how many turns from all the way right or left.[/b]
wellu will just have to mess with it till she idle good! theres no right or wrong turn, just till it idles! if you ever need anything else you can call me back! im glad i could help :thumbsup:
THE BIKE IS ALIIIIIVE, Running good I am complete, friends riding it around the neighborhood seeing if its running right (he knows more than I do) then imma change oil probly. along with tranny BIG THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT HELPED
Bikes running now, and is running fine but its really loud compared to stock cam. We dont really know how it would sound if the valves were hitting or if its just how the cam sounds so can any one explain as best as possible? And if they were hitting is that a shim adjustment
The hcII is a louder cam than stock. But, it should only sound like valve train noise.
K i think my engines really fuked up. Now it'll start up and run for like 2 minutes then it dies. I hear a little clinking noise like a little bolt bouncing around in there but im 100% sure i didnt drop anything in there, And it sounds like my valves are hitting. This is really worrying me as Im broke and cant afford to have some look at it or fix it, Im praying i didnt screw up the head or bend a valve but in reality im sure both will be how i suspect. How can i see if i bent a valve without taking the engine apart, my friends dads friend has a leak down test but doesnt think he has a 8mm attachment
Take it apart and re-check everything. You've done it once, you can do it again.
Damn brett,
I was hoping to tear into that 450 with my 565r or my 734rappy lol.
If i was home right now i would come by and take a look at the bike for ya but ill be at work for another week and a half so that won't be doing you any good.
Have you taken it back apart to check everything that you have done up to this point?
Charles
I was hoping to tear into that 450 with my 565r or my 734rappy lol.
If i was home right now i would come by and take a look at the bike for ya but ill be at work for another week and a half so that won't be doing you any good.
Have you taken it back apart to check everything that you have done up to this point?
Charles
No not yet, I think i can get a leakdown test but not till next weekend at the earliest becuz ultimately I need to know if i bent a valve, Im hoping theres no valve bent or head damage and that its just valve clearance being off and cam chain loose noises. But damn it is alot louder like i can hear everything in the engine alot more than i could beforem and a little tiny rattling noise and it dies after like 5 mins of idling. Im probly gonna bring it to Kens and be like, ok tell me whats wrong hah. Im sure its gonna cost me over 100$ just for them to look at it but i have no options at this point.Damn brett,
I was hoping to tear into that 450 with my 565r or my 734rappy lol.
If i was home right now i would come by and take a look at the bike for ya but ill be at work for another week and a half so that won't be doing you any good.
Have you taken it back apart to check everything that you have done up to this point?
Charles[/b]
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