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I got my HMF Bill Balance pipe in and installed yesturday. My Curtis Sparks jets and airfilter will not arrive until next week, can I ride my bike with the stock jet and not have any problems. I started the bike yesturday and it ran fine as long as I left the airbox lid on. Any help would be appreciated.


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To ride or not to ride??? Well, let's see what would/could happen. If you're just a little too lean, then the motor will get hot, and potentially you'll get detonation (pinging) and we all know that's a bad thing. If you only put a pipe on, but left the airbox lid on, then likely it would run a bit lean at sea level to about 1500 ft elevation. If you're in the 1500 to 3000 ft elevation, your jets may not be that far off.

If you're REALLY lean, then at first, the motor will bog under full throttle at high rpm. You'll quickly find that you won't want to ride like that. If you do, and you ignore the grenade explosions that severe detonation will cause, you better plan on major engine repair.

I would literally play it "by ear" if you MUST ride. Take it easy and listen for knocking/pinging noises. If it happens, STOP RIDING! I would bet that if you just want some mellow break in time, you won't have much of a problem, but remember the risks. Is it worth the expense of possible damage?

If it were my quad, I'd rip the bowl off the carb, pull the main jet, go buy a few larger jets at a local shop and fatten up the jetting until it runs well on top. Raise the needle until it runs well in the middle and turn the airscrew in a turn or so for idle and low rpm. In the end, I'd have (and always end up with) a bunch of extra main jets for high elevation operation. Heck, a handful of jets is a lot cheaper than a hole in your piston... :(
 

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I wouldnt ride it.......!!!!!!!!

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the DMC pipe for the yfz promises 8 hp without changing the airbox or ajusting the fuel screw. I wouldn't think that this would burn up his motor, y would it yours. but then they are all different pipes.
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it wont hurt your motor at all in my opinion. My brother ran a white bros slip on with everything else stock...for about 6 or 7 months...and his Z still runs stronger then my sons does....my sons is all stock....I would ride the poop out of it if I were you.
 

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Thanks for the help guys, I am running the full Balance exhaust and have the stock jet installed, I had to turn the fuel screw out 1 turn before installing the Balance pipe to make the bike run smooth and eliminate a bog problem I had had. Once I did that the bike ran perfect. I took it out for a short 2min spin last night and everything seemed (sounded fine) not sure what I'll do, gotta ride, but I'd rather spend my money on mods then repairs
 

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here are some pictures of my pipe incase anyone is interested. I put the heat shield back on to protect my leg
 

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:D nice bike man
 

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really looks sweet man. is that thing possibly a baffel? that would be my only guess.?
 

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Originally posted by PICKLES@Jun 3 2004, 12:19 PM
really looks sweet man. is that thing possibly a baffel? that would be my only guess.?
I think thats the quiet core insert B)
 

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Thats what I thought, quiet core. Do they send them out wih all orders or did I just get lucky? I did not take the one out that is in the exhaust to compaire, but it looks as far as I can tell to be identical.
 

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Originally posted by pbell75@Jun 3 2004, 12:53 PM
Thats what I thought, quiet core.  Do they send them out wih all orders or did I just get lucky?  I did not take the one out that is in the exhaust to compaire, but it looks as far as I can tell to be identical.
I dont get that...why would they give you 2 of them.
 

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i also have that pipe but, i got the carbon. i love it. that is not a quiet core its a torque range modifier, it smoots out the powerband and gives more torque everywhere. if you put it in and rattles get some heat tape and put around he edge so it makes a snug fit.
 

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NO that is the TRM (Torque Range Modifier)....It helps the bottom end torque..I haven't rode my bike without it yet. (I too have the bill ballance pro).
 

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Do the other HMF pipes have the TRM or just the Bill Balance. I bought an HMF full, and I am not sure if I have that.
 

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Originally posted by TRX450rlude+Jun 3 2004, 12:25 PM-->
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@Jun 3 2004, 12:19 PM
really looks sweet man. is that thing possibly a baffel? that would be my only guess.?
I think thats the quiet core insert B) [/b]
I thought they were the same???
 

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No totally different from quiet core, and no, only the bill ballance comes with it. It does however quiet it down a few decibals.
 
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