thats no good , that one lobe looked all messed up thats for sure
UH OH BIG PROBLEMS
I was removing my carb today to send off to have bored by soyo and found my head to carb rubber adapter was dry rotted and cracked,
and is probaly the reason for the HUGE jets i was having to run, then i was looking at the head and the head work, and thought you know i dont like it it doesnt look like a good job to me opinions are welcomed, and i dont think its doing good for power espically since a buddy on here is still outrunning me and we have almost all the same mods just done differently, I removed my valves and one of them was JAMMED up and was real PITA to get out Just so happens thats the same side that was way off on the valve reading when i checked the valves, then with more looking i realized that the cam lobe was WAY outta shape it was actually semi squared off looking Worst part about it is its almost as low and rounded as the STOCK cam i have them both side by side for a comparision :thumbdown:
so looks like i may be sending some more work soyos way!!
oh well its all a learning experence :beatingdeadhorse:
cant wait to see how shes gonna run with everything RIGHT!!!
I tried to upload pics BUT it wont somehting about dynamic pages heres the link to my photobucket with the pics!!! http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj282/stephen200724/
and is probaly the reason for the HUGE jets i was having to run, then i was looking at the head and the head work, and thought you know i dont like it it doesnt look like a good job to me opinions are welcomed, and i dont think its doing good for power espically since a buddy on here is still outrunning me and we have almost all the same mods just done differently, I removed my valves and one of them was JAMMED up and was real PITA to get out Just so happens thats the same side that was way off on the valve reading when i checked the valves, then with more looking i realized that the cam lobe was WAY outta shape it was actually semi squared off looking Worst part about it is its almost as low and rounded as the STOCK cam i have them both side by side for a comparision :thumbdown:
so looks like i may be sending some more work soyos way!!
oh well its all a learning experence :beatingdeadhorse:
cant wait to see how shes gonna run with everything RIGHT!!!
I tried to upload pics BUT it wont somehting about dynamic pages heres the link to my photobucket with the pics!!! http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj282/stephen200724/
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the port looks ok to me just a little used
but i would put 100% gaurentee tht the boot was your problem, you better be lucky shiiit didnt get sucked into there and destroyed the cylinder/piston
but i would put 100% gaurentee tht the boot was your problem, you better be lucky shiiit didnt get sucked into there and destroyed the cylinder/piston
that sucks for sure.. the portwork does not look abnormal to me ( looks like a couple humps going down but not as bad as others I have seen).. if you were looking for a polished finish then I can see your dissapointment for sure.. who ported the head ? You deffinately have cam issues.
not really looking for a polished job i guess i can see it better here, i cant get a good pic of it, im goign to let soyo take care of it and he can post on here what he thinks!!that sucks for sure.. the portwork does not look abnormal to me ( looks like a couple humps going down but not as bad as others I have seen).. if you were looking for a polished finish then I can see your dissapointment for sure.. who ported the head ? You deffinately have cam issues.[/b]
anyone know what might have cause the cam to take a beating like that?? the cam bucket is beat in too!!
Way off clearances? It would seem to the untrained eye that you have a clearance way off and it dented the bucket.
I would think clearence issues or even bent valve... the valve should have come out pretty easy.. if it was a pita then you have problems... if it is bent thn it would take more pressure to open and close causing excessive wear on the cam.
yeah thats my fault i thought once you shimmed the valves they are set for good they have never been adjusted!! :_specialED:Way off clearances? It would seem to the untrained eye that you have a clearance way off and it dented the bucket.[/b]
Way off clearances? It would seem to the untrained eye that you have a clearance way off and it dented the bucket.[/b]
yea that cam was WAY to tight, you had a clearance possibly a alignment issue and with that boot ripped open
no wait i got it, that hole in your boot cause a very very lean condition cause it to burn hot, too hott
causing whats called pre-ignition causing the valves and cam to have clearance issues
just out of curiositiy ( i know spelled wrong ) how does preignition cause clearence issues ?Way off clearances? It would seem to the untrained eye that you have a clearance way off and it dented the bucket.[/b]
yea that cam was WAY to tight, you had a clearance possibly a alignment issue and with that boot ripped open
no wait i got it, that hole in your boot cause a very very lean condition cause it to burn hot, too hott
causing whats called pre-ignition causing the valves and cam to have clearance issues
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this would also be why my bike has had so much trouble starting correct???
yes would be a major issue... the boot would cause that as well... a bike takes more fuel to run when it is cold.. that is why you must choke it because it restricts the air making it run richer. as it warms up it takes less fuel and you turn the choke off. so with it sucking air in the boot it would not want to start well and idle well at all when cold.. probably I would guess allot of popping on decelaration as well..
ouch i haven't seen a cam that beat up before. and those buckets dont bend or move very easily either. check your oil filter and see if you find some chunks and shavings from that other stuff in there
pre-ignition will cause the piston to go back down before it is supposed to , so it will pull the cam chain down abruptly cause it to apply more pressure to the cam and valves making it tighterjust out of curiositiy ( i know spelled wrong ) how does preignition cause clearence issues ?Way off clearances? It would seem to the untrained eye that you have a clearance way off and it dented the bucket.[/b]
yea that cam was WAY to tight, you had a clearance possibly a alignment issue and with that boot ripped open
no wait i got it, that hole in your boot cause a very very lean condition cause it to burn hot, too hott
causing whats called pre-ignition causing the valves and cam to have clearance issues
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I don't think from that pic I could say the porting is bad.
I would get the valves fixed, new cam, adjust it up, and fix the boot.
A worn lobe and a huge air leak=no power.
Also, what is a soyo?
I would not alter the head until you address the other issues and re-evaluate.
I would get the valves fixed, new cam, adjust it up, and fix the boot.
A worn lobe and a huge air leak=no power.
Also, what is a soyo?
I would not alter the head until you address the other issues and re-evaluate.
On the port work, I believe if someone is taking your money to do this, they need to at the very least, make sure the opening of the port is round and symmetrical. The ports themselves don't look very bad, but the first part of the opening looks like a hack job to me. Just my opinion of course.
Your other problems go back to your piston issue. Are you sure you never had it out of time when you put the piston in and the piston smacked the valve and bent it? That could easily have caused all of this if it wasn't caught.
Your other problems go back to your piston issue. Are you sure you never had it out of time when you put the piston in and the piston smacked the valve and bent it? That could easily have caused all of this if it wasn't caught.
also with that bucket like that, it makes me think that there was no shim in it at all and thats what caused it to cup
ouch, order a shim kit and let soyo fix the head and carb.
those parts look beat up pretty bad, but can be made to go fast again.........i'm surprised it ran like it did!! honda's are tough.....this bike was outrunning a lot of people, in this shape........wow....i was their and seen it and cann't believe it was even running like this.
get that hc3 and 14:1 cp so we can make it right!!
those parts look beat up pretty bad, but can be made to go fast again.........i'm surprised it ran like it did!! honda's are tough.....this bike was outrunning a lot of people, in this shape........wow....i was their and seen it and cann't believe it was even running like this.
get that hc3 and 14:1 cp so we can make it right!!
If the valve is bent, which it probably is, you'll probably have to put a new guide in along with a cam, bucket, and shims. I'm not sure if the buckets are the same between the 04-05 and 06+, but I have one I can sell you from my 05 if it will work.
thanks for all the replys and help on this situation seems i have dont the unthinkable yet again ha ha ha i have tore up a perfectly good cam and dented a bucket, like i said before its all a learning process for me its my hobby and i like tinkering so looks like im learning the hard way!!! ill get it right soon and post back with whats up!! thanks
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