at Red Bud you would, it is a very fast track. That double is the famous double double were the second one is up hill and then an imediate left. Last year I bet 100 guys wrecked or cased there. If you go to red bud any other time of the year but this time of year, it is not there. well, it's there but not that big. Awesome track, many of the pros choose it as their favorite.