I haven't got to really got to race a yzf yet. I tried to once and I accidently started in second, plus my jetting was off. I'm sure I will get a rematch pretty soon though...
I raced a YFZ!!
I raced a YFZ yesterday for the first time. He had the cam mod, intake setup, jetting, and baffle removed from his pipe and a newer pair fo holeshot mx's.
Well we raced and he got the holeshot on me. and he was about halph a bike length in front of me and the entire race stayed that way till the end. Our speeds were dead even till the end. He was a halph bike in front of me at the beginning to the end. -_- Well I'm not sooo depressed that I lost because if we had raced a couple more times, and I had the whole shot, I would have won. I was jetted quite a bit rich yesterday, ( I jetted my bike for an open airbox, but I was running a cut lid so i definately was rich). The next thing wrong was the fact that my stock tires had only 25% tread left. Anyhow I'm pretty impressed with that YFZ. I got to ride it and it really is a nice bike, but the vibration in the bike is horrible, it could make your hands numb if you rode it long enough
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Anyhow, I'll race him again, but next time i'll be in front. 
h34r:
Well we raced and he got the holeshot on me. and he was about halph a bike length in front of me and the entire race stayed that way till the end. Our speeds were dead even till the end. He was a halph bike in front of me at the beginning to the end. -_- Well I'm not sooo depressed that I lost because if we had raced a couple more times, and I had the whole shot, I would have won. I was jetted quite a bit rich yesterday, ( I jetted my bike for an open airbox, but I was running a cut lid so i definately was rich). The next thing wrong was the fact that my stock tires had only 25% tread left. Anyhow I'm pretty impressed with that YFZ. I got to ride it and it really is a nice bike, but the vibration in the bike is horrible, it could make your hands numb if you rode it long enough
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here is what i had posted on exriders:
I finally got a chance to ride the YFZ this weekend. I like the bike, the speed feels similar to the 450R, but my TRX has alot more torque, you can lug the 450r in any gear and it will come right up for you. The YFZ will rev a little longer but if you add a rev box to the TRX, you'll be equal. We dragged raced only one time, my stock tires have barely any tread left, and he was running newer holeshots, anyhow he got of the line first and was about halph a bike in front of me, but we stayed like that untill the end of the race. He never got any more distance between us, our speeds were equal to the very end. We were topped out in 5th for at least 1/4 mile. Who ever got the holeshot in the drag or got off the line first, would be the winner of the race. His bike had the cam mod, intake, jetting and baffle removed. Anyhow, I liked the way the YFZ rode, and can now see why eveyone thinks the 450R is so light in the front, thats because the YFZ's fron't end doesn't go anywhere. Anyhow I really liked the YFZ but I couldn't see riding it for any long period of time. The bike felt a little cramped, especially for a taller rider. And my biggest complaint was after I got off the YFZ, my hands were almost numb. I did not expect the bike to vibrate as much as it did. The only bike that I have ridden that had near that much vibration was my buddy's 250R with a 425CC big bore kit. That kit also made over 80HP, so the vibration was expected, but honestly I think YFZ vibrates even more. Other than that I see these two bikes as very similar bikes, that you wont go wrong if you went with either one.
Now to add
Me and the YFZ rider were equal in weight. We are about equal in the riding ability. Every time I have dragged my 450R in the past, my front would lift a bit, this time, it didn't lift, i just spun instead....i had too little tread left and too much air in them!! Once I was off the line, (he got off first) there were no gains at all, we were equal the entire way. Now I screwed up because when I dragged him, I had my airbox lid on with my jetting at 190!! which is my jetting for no lid, so it was not reving as fast as i would have liked, so that was another notch against me. Now I don't like to make excuses so, I'll just wait till the rematch. The YFZ is a nice bike no doubt, but I honestly walked away this weekend only more confident that I made the right choice when I bought my bike The 450R is the bike for me as the YFZ is for someone else. Dirtwheels can go suck an egg, they really need to test these bikes on a broader spectrum, instead of just testing them on the track....believe it or not not everyone spends their time at the track!!
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The two bike are really equal advesaries
I finally got a chance to ride the YFZ this weekend. I like the bike, the speed feels similar to the 450R, but my TRX has alot more torque, you can lug the 450r in any gear and it will come right up for you. The YFZ will rev a little longer but if you add a rev box to the TRX, you'll be equal. We dragged raced only one time, my stock tires have barely any tread left, and he was running newer holeshots, anyhow he got of the line first and was about halph a bike in front of me, but we stayed like that untill the end of the race. He never got any more distance between us, our speeds were equal to the very end. We were topped out in 5th for at least 1/4 mile. Who ever got the holeshot in the drag or got off the line first, would be the winner of the race. His bike had the cam mod, intake, jetting and baffle removed. Anyhow, I liked the way the YFZ rode, and can now see why eveyone thinks the 450R is so light in the front, thats because the YFZ's fron't end doesn't go anywhere. Anyhow I really liked the YFZ but I couldn't see riding it for any long period of time. The bike felt a little cramped, especially for a taller rider. And my biggest complaint was after I got off the YFZ, my hands were almost numb. I did not expect the bike to vibrate as much as it did. The only bike that I have ridden that had near that much vibration was my buddy's 250R with a 425CC big bore kit. That kit also made over 80HP, so the vibration was expected, but honestly I think YFZ vibrates even more. Other than that I see these two bikes as very similar bikes, that you wont go wrong if you went with either one.
Now to add
Me and the YFZ rider were equal in weight. We are about equal in the riding ability. Every time I have dragged my 450R in the past, my front would lift a bit, this time, it didn't lift, i just spun instead....i had too little tread left and too much air in them!! Once I was off the line, (he got off first) there were no gains at all, we were equal the entire way. Now I screwed up because when I dragged him, I had my airbox lid on with my jetting at 190!! which is my jetting for no lid, so it was not reving as fast as i would have liked, so that was another notch against me. Now I don't like to make excuses so, I'll just wait till the rematch. The YFZ is a nice bike no doubt, but I honestly walked away this weekend only more confident that I made the right choice when I bought my bike
The 450R is the bike for me as the YFZ is for someone else. Dirtwheels can go suck an egg, they really need to test these bikes on a broader spectrum, instead of just testing them on the track....believe it or not not everyone spends their time at the track!!
Well the bike I rode needed more than just some dapening mounts for the vibration to go away. I'll be honest, that motor could use a heavier counterbalancer. The footpegs were basically massaging my feet!!
Well the bike I rode needed more than just some dapening mounts for the vibration to go away. I'll be honest, that motor could use a heavier counterbalancer. The footpegs were basically massaging my feet!!
really, that really concerns me...I did not even think about vibration...and Ive heard of that problem before I rode one, and still never thought about it, while riding 5 hours on it.
I think Yamaha needs to check that out>.
.....sooner than later hopefully.
Hey I owned an RT100, Banshee and a Warrior, so I was Yamaha man before being a honda man. To be honest I really never had a problem with anything on my Yamaha's!! My warrior barely needed any maintenance and Banshee would kick after sitting 8months in the dead cold with one or 2 kicks!!
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Anyhow, the only reason I went honda is because it is what suited me at this point and time! I really don't know what major problems yamaha has had in the past, besides the 01 trannys on the Raptors. Yes, Honda has a tradition of being bullet proof, but that doesn't mean Yamahas are not!
Haha, i was wondering when you would see this thread.Originally posted by mattYFZ450+Jun 1 2004, 10:14 PM-->.....sooner than later hopefully.
It won't be until sometime after next week, because next week I will be in Daytona Beach riding with Schmitthead.
your right pickles, I should have been more clear about my thoughts..
For everyone...when comparing the Yamaha products to the Honda products, I think the Yamaha is not nearly built as well as the hondas
Also I think Yamaha is very good, assuming you take really good care of them..but I think that with a honda you dont have to take as much care of it in order for it to maintain its reliability...Like I have said. I love the YFZ...but I dont think it will ever be as reliable as the TRX...
I have 2 friends that both bought brand new Warriors, and even new them were the biggest pieces of crap...Im talking A arms just falling off for no reason....major mechnical problems....one of them was in the shop every day for a month with different problems...this is just an example of my experiences with Yamaha....everytime we took the 03 Warrior to little sahara we would have to fix it for 3 hrs before we could get it running...It was brand new. both my friends have since got rid of them. One of them is they guy I ride with that has the HMF equipped 04 raptor....But unlike other raptors...this one is nice and very reliable (so far)....very fast too...It impressed me...but even he will tell you that yamaha has a reliability issue..on most of thier stuff. Thats all he buys is yamaha too...we are always cracking on each others brand of choice...its all in fun though.
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