[joe1l]

I raced a YFZ yesterday for the first time. He had the cam mod, intake setup, jetting, and baffle removed from his pipe and a newer pair fo holeshot mx's.
Well we raced and he got the holeshot on me. and he was about halph a bike length in front of me and the entire race stayed that way till the end. Our speeds were dead even till the end. He was a halph bike in front of me at the beginning to the end. -_- Well I'm not sooo depressed that I lost because if we had raced a couple more times, and I had the whole shot, I would have won. I was jetted quite a bit rich yesterday, ( I jetted my bike for an open airbox, but I was running a cut lid so i definately was rich). The next thing wrong was the fact that my stock tires had only 25% tread left. Anyhow I'm pretty impressed with that YFZ. I got to ride it and it really is a nice bike, but the vibration in the bike is horrible, it could make your hands numb if you rode it long enough

Anyhow, I'll race him again, but next time i'll be in front. h34r:

 

[lukester720]

I haven't got to really got to race a yzf yet. I tried to once and I accidently started in second, plus my jetting was off. I'm sure I will get a rematch pretty soon though...

 

[tuffguy]

Last week I was in silverlake and got to race alot of quads. I must have made 25+ runs and the strip was really whooped out. The mods I have are a HRC endcap, sparks cam, jetkit,filter and EHS lid. I was also running 20/10/10 8paddle haulers. The yfz's I ran had FMF Q, yoshi and stock exhaust(you must run a sparky at silverlake). I admit I was one of the heavier fellas there by about 40lbs(I'm about 235). All were running paddles mostly sand stars. I don't know if they had other mods or not. Whoever won was the guy who got the holeshot. It was pretty much give and take the whole time. I feel the yfz's and r's are pretty close . One guy had a r with a yoshi pipe(whatelse I don't know) if we both got good starts I had by atleast 1 quad length in the end. I don't know what he had done ( I presume the pipe,thats it) but was suprised with the mods I had I could come out ahead. I think now I really need a pipe and maybe the fcr carb, not sure which should come first. Althouth the yoshi really sounded sweet but, I was competitive with just a hrc endcap.

 

[TRX450rlude]

Ive heard alot of people complaining about vibration on the YFZ's...the one I rode Monday seems smooth as ice to me...I did not notice any excessive vibration, and I rode the bike all day long...like 5 hrs....very nice bike...I think thats the best Yamaha has done on anything they have ever built...that includes thier electronics.......I wonder if its bike specific...We already know Yamaha's reliablity could use quite a bit of improvement...but I wonder if they put some bikes together better then others...Like it depends on what shift is working when they build the bikes....I dont know...but it sounds like something may be up there. B)

 

[joe1l]

here is what i had posted on exriders:
I finally got a chance to ride the YFZ this weekend. I like the bike, the speed feels similar to the 450R, but my TRX has alot more torque, you can lug the 450r in any gear and it will come right up for you. The YFZ will rev a little longer but if you add a rev box to the TRX, you'll be equal. We dragged raced only one time, my stock tires have barely any tread left, and he was running newer holeshots, anyhow he got of the line first and was about halph a bike in front of me, but we stayed like that untill the end of the race. He never got any more distance between us, our speeds were equal to the very end. We were topped out in 5th for at least 1/4 mile. Who ever got the holeshot in the drag or got off the line first, would be the winner of the race. His bike had the cam mod, intake, jetting and baffle removed. Anyhow, I liked the way the YFZ rode, and can now see why eveyone thinks the 450R is so light in the front, thats because the YFZ's fron't end doesn't go anywhere. Anyhow I really liked the YFZ but I couldn't see riding it for any long period of time. The bike felt a little cramped, especially for a taller rider. And my biggest complaint was after I got off the YFZ, my hands were almost numb. I did not expect the bike to vibrate as much as it did. The only bike that I have ridden that had near that much vibration was my buddy's 250R with a 425CC big bore kit. That kit also made over 80HP, so the vibration was expected, but honestly I think YFZ vibrates even more. Other than that I see these two bikes as very similar bikes, that you wont go wrong if you went with either one.



Now to add
Me and the YFZ rider were equal in weight. We are about equal in the riding ability. Every time I have dragged my 450R in the past, my front would lift a bit, this time, it didn't lift, i just spun instead....i had too little tread left and too much air in them!! Once I was off the line, (he got off first) there were no gains at all, we were equal the entire way. Now I screwed up because when I dragged him, I had my airbox lid on with my jetting at 190!! which is my jetting for no lid, so it was not reving as fast as i would have liked, so that was another notch against me. Now I don't like to make excuses so, I'll just wait till the rematch. The YFZ is a nice bike no doubt, but I honestly walked away this weekend only more confident that I made the right choice when I bought my bike The 450R is the bike for me as the YFZ is for someone else. Dirtwheels can go suck an egg, they really need to test these bikes on a broader spectrum, instead of just testing them on the track....believe it or not not everyone spends their time at the track!!

The two bike are really equal advesaries

 

[joe1l]

Thanks joe, IMO I think the lid would make all the difference in the world; you should have him easily with your mods now if you remember that friggin' lid !

Haha

Cool ...

Hey lude, the YFZ that you rode did it have stock handlebars? --- A lot of guys with YFZ's are putting on dampened mounts and the vibes go away (almost)[/b]

Well the bike I rode needed more than just some dapening mounts for the vibration to go away. I'll be honest, that motor could use a heavier counterbalancer. The footpegs were basically massaging my feet!!

 

[TRX450rlude]

Originally posted by joe1l@Jun 1 2004, 04:51 PM
QUOTE

Thanks joe, IMO I think the lid would make all the difference in the world; you should have him easily with your mods now if you remember that friggin' lid !

Haha

Cool ...

Hey lude, the YFZ that you rode did it have stock handlebars? --- A lot of guys with YFZ's are putting on dampened mounts and the vibes go away (almost)

Well the bike I rode needed more than just some dapening mounts for the vibration to go away. I'll be honest, that motor could use a heavier counterbalancer. The footpegs were basically massaging my feet!!

[/b][/quote]
really, that really concerns me...I did not even think about vibration...and Ive heard of that problem before I rode one, and still never thought about it, while riding 5 hours on it.

I think Yamaha needs to check that out>.

 

[PICKLES]

Originally posted by TRX450rlude@Jun 1 2004, 11:27 AM
We already know Yamaha's reliablity could use quite a bit of improvement

don't know what the heck u mean bout this . not tryin to flame but we got a 96 waveventure and all we do is change the damn plugs each season and it will still crank out to 62 miles per hour. the only thing that we have ever really done to it is we changed the fuel filter. nothin else. sorry to bug u bout this. oh yea and it always starts in less then 20 seconds even after sitting all 8.5 months or so of winter. and usually less then 5 secs at launch. so please clarify this but I guess that it might be just a yamaha ATV thing but do clarify my friend.
-peace
again not to flame just wondering
-peace

 

[mattYFZ450]

Originally posted by lukester720@May 31 2004, 04:04 AM
I haven't got to really got to race a yzf yet. I tried to once and I accidently started in second, plus my jetting was off. I'm sure I will get a rematch pretty soon though...

.....sooner than later hopefully.

 

[joe1l]

Hey I owned an RT100, Banshee and a Warrior, so I was Yamaha man before being a honda man. To be honest I really never had a problem with anything on my Yamaha's!! My warrior barely needed any maintenance and Banshee would kick after sitting 8months in the dead cold with one or 2 kicks!!

Anyhow, the only reason I went honda is because it is what suited me at this point and time! I really don't know what major problems yamaha has had in the past, besides the 01 trannys on the Raptors. Yes, Honda has a tradition of being bullet proof, but that doesn't mean Yamahas are not!

 

[lukester720]

Originally posted by mattYFZ450+Jun 1 2004, 10:14 PM-->

<!--QuoteBegin-lukester720

@May 31 2004, 04:04 AM
I haven't got to really got to race a yzf yet. I tried to once and I accidently started in second, plus my jetting was off. I'm sure I will get a rematch pretty soon though...

.....sooner than later hopefully. [/b]

Haha, i was wondering when you would see this thread.

It won't be until sometime after next week, because next week I will be in Daytona Beach riding with Schmitthead.

 

[mattYFZ450]

My YFZ vibrates pretty good. When I was riding it before I bought it, it scared me a little. After a few races on my 400EX, I developed tendinitis and I was worried that the YFZ's vibration would only make it worse. So, I went ahead and got an anti-vibe stem and Pro Taper bars and 1/2 way through 2 series its yet to bother me.

 

[TRX450rlude]

Originally posted by PICKLES+Jun 1 2004, 06:33 PM-->

<!--QuoteBegin-TRX450rlude

@Jun 1 2004, 11:27 AM
We already know Yamaha's reliablity could use quite a bit of improvement

don't know what the heck u mean bout this . not tryin to flame but we got a 96 waveventure and all we do is change the damn plugs each season and it will still crank out to 62 miles per hour. the only thing that we have ever really done to it is we changed the fuel filter. nothin else. sorry to bug u bout this. oh yea and it always starts in less then 20 seconds even after sitting all 8.5 months or so of winter. and usually less then 5 secs at launch. so please clarify this but I guess that it might be just a yamaha ATV thing but do clarify my friend.
-peace
again not to flame just wondering
-peace [/b]

I can care less about your jet ski...go to a jet ski forum.....I am speaking from mine and my friends experiences....I think they are junk...but Im comparing it to a Honda also....Also when I say this I mean they are very good machine, if you take care of it....the honda is a good machine even if you dont take care of it....and Ive had plenty of yamahas....I just sold my last one, thank god, the dang thing broke every time we rode it....we would ride, fix it while we were riding...and fix it some more after we were done riding....who said anything about a jet ski. they dont take near the punishmnent a ATV takes. the engine takes alot of abuse, but I think Yamaha makes pretty good engines...its the rest of the bike that I think is junk....and this is my opinion, you have yours.....maybe youve just had better luck with them then most people...maybe you take better care of your stuff then most people....I think they YFZ is a work of art...like I said earlier, its better then anything they have ever built,,,IN MY OPINION....If you have your opinion feel free to express it...without bashing someone elses....later.

 

[PICKLES]

Originally posted by TRX450rlude+Jun 2 2004, 10:20 AM-->

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 06:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-TRX450rlude

@Jun 1 2004, 11:27 AM
We already know Yamaha's reliablity could use quite a bit of improvement

don't know what the heck u mean bout this . not tryin to flame but we got a 96 waveventure and all we do is change the damn plugs each season and it will still crank out to 62 miles per hour. the only thing that we have ever really done to it is we changed the fuel filter. nothin else. sorry to bug u bout this. oh yea and it always starts in less then 20 seconds even after sitting all 8.5 months or so of winter. and usually less then 5 secs at launch. so please clarify this but I guess that it might be just a yamaha ATV thing but do clarify my friend.
-peace
again not to flame just wondering
-peace

I can care less about your jet ski...go to a jet ski forum.....I am speaking from mine and my friends experiences....I think they are junk...but Im comparing it to a Honda also....Also when I say this I mean they are very good machine, if you take care of it....the honda is a good machine even if you dont take care of it....and Ive had plenty of yamahas....I just sold my last one, thank god, the dang thing broke every time we rode it....we would ride, fix it while we were riding...and fix it some more after we were done riding....who said anything about a jet ski. they dont take near the punishmnent a ATV takes. the engine takes alot of abuse, but I think Yamaha makes pretty good engines...its the rest of the bike that I think is junk....and this is my opinion, you have yours.....maybe youve just had better luck with them then most people...maybe you take better care of your stuff then most people....I think they YFZ is a work of art...like I said earlier, its better then anything they have ever built,,,IN MY OPINION....If you have your opinion feel free to express it...without bashing someone elses....later. [/b]

I said I wasn't bashing I was just tired of evry1 talkin trash about yamaha's in general. you should really try to be more specific next time and say 'I think that the suspention, frame, etc. is crappy on yamaha's. sorry we had this arguement.
-peace

 

[TRX450rlude]

Originally posted by PICKLES+Jun 2 2004, 11:16 AM-->

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2004, 06:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-TRX450rlude

@Jun 1 2004, 11:27 AM
We already know Yamaha's reliablity could use quite a bit of improvement

don't know what the heck u mean bout this . not tryin to flame but we got a 96 waveventure and all we do is change the damn plugs each season and it will still crank out to 62 miles per hour. the only thing that we have ever really done to it is we changed the fuel filter. nothin else. sorry to bug u bout this. oh yea and it always starts in less then 20 seconds even after sitting all 8.5 months or so of winter. and usually less then 5 secs at launch. so please clarify this but I guess that it might be just a yamaha ATV thing but do clarify my friend.
-peace
again not to flame just wondering
-peace

I can care less about your jet ski...go to a jet ski forum.....I am speaking from mine and my friends experiences....I think they are junk...but Im comparing it to a Honda also....Also when I say this I mean they are very good machine, if you take care of it....the honda is a good machine even if you dont take care of it....and Ive had plenty of yamahas....I just sold my last one, thank god, the dang thing broke every time we rode it....we would ride, fix it while we were riding...and fix it some more after we were done riding....who said anything about a jet ski. they dont take near the punishmnent a ATV takes. the engine takes alot of abuse, but I think Yamaha makes pretty good engines...its the rest of the bike that I think is junk....and this is my opinion, you have yours.....maybe youve just had better luck with them then most people...maybe you take better care of your stuff then most people....I think they YFZ is a work of art...like I said earlier, its better then anything they have ever built,,,IN MY OPINION....If you have your opinion feel free to express it...without bashing someone elses....later.

I said I wasn't bashing I was just tired of evry1 talkin trash about yamaha's in general. you should really try to be more specific next time and say 'I think that the suspention, frame, etc. is crappy on yamaha's. sorry we had this arguement.
-peace [/b]

your right pickles, I should have been more clear about my thoughts..

For everyone...when comparing the Yamaha products to the Honda products, I think the Yamaha is not nearly built as well as the hondas

Also I think Yamaha is very good, assuming you take really good care of them..but I think that with a honda you dont have to take as much care of it in order for it to maintain its reliability...Like I have said. I love the YFZ...but I dont think it will ever be as reliable as the TRX...

I have 2 friends that both bought brand new Warriors, and even new them were the biggest pieces of crap...Im talking A arms just falling off for no reason....major mechnical problems....one of them was in the shop every day for a month with different problems...this is just an example of my experiences with Yamaha....everytime we took the 03 Warrior to little sahara we would have to fix it for 3 hrs before we could get it running...It was brand new. both my friends have since got rid of them. One of them is they guy I ride with that has the HMF equipped 04 raptor....But unlike other raptors...this one is nice and very reliable (so far)....very fast too...It impressed me...but even he will tell you that yamaha has a reliability issue..on most of thier stuff. Thats all he buys is yamaha too...we are always cracking on each others brand of choice...its all in fun though.