I have one for my 250r, and I really like the idea, but it is a pain in the a$$ to jet accordingly. I rather get the outerwears airbox cover instead.
Trust me when I say HELL NO, the jetting won't be the same!! With my 450R, with airbox lid cut (hrc airbox lid), I have to run one jet size smaller than if I were running no lid at all! When you put that cover over the hole in the airbox, it really cuts down the airflow. I know when i tried the lid setup on my 250R, I had to jet down 2 full sizes in order for it to not run too rich! I would setup your bike for jetting with a cut airbox lid (i'm running 185) if I were to run no lid at all I would go to 188 or 190! Feel how your bike feels with the cut lid!!! Then install the outerwear setup. If you feel like you have lost some power, then I would jet down 1 size.Ok thanks joe hope the guy was right when he said to jet it with no cover and will be right. You scaring me now[/b]
I had one of those lids! and I already metioned that it cut down my airflow ALOT!! I'm not saying the idea is not a good one, but just will not perform like an open airbox or even a cut airbox. The jetting will be different! the fact that dirtwheel wrote and article and said that it peforms like an open airbox, just proves to me once again that they are an unreliable source, Desert 450r has a point in saying that they don't want to piss off potential advertisers. There is a reason why dirtwheels test certain products and not others and that is $$$$ I'm sure some one will have to pay to get their product evaluated in dirtwheels..i mean there is no better advertising!! the lid is a nice alternative to running a an airbox lid, but it is not an alternative to running an open airbox lid ...IMOwhy does anyone ever mention what they read in Dirt wheels cause everytime someone does they get a flaming pile of crap shot at there faces. Is dirt wheels really that unreliable, does no one ever trust that they say any truth? Everytime they saysomething good about a product it's cause they want ad money? everytime they say something bad it's cause that products competitor spends more money in ads? [/b]
Originally posted by joe1l@May 6 2004, 12:35 PM
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I had one of those lids! and I already metioned that it cut down my airflow ALOT!! I'm not saying the idea is not a good one, but just will not perform like an open airbox or even a cut airbox. The jetting will be different! the fact that dirtwheel wrote and article and said that it peforms like an open airbox, just proves to me once again that they are an unreliable source, Desert 450r has a point in saying that they don't want to piss off potential advertisers. There is a reason why dirtwheels test certain products and not others and that is $$$$ I'm sure some one will have to pay to get their product evaluated in dirtwheels..i mean there is no better advertising!! the lid is a nice alternative to running a an airbox lid, but it is not an alternative to running an open airbox lid ...IMO [/b][/quote]why does anyone ever mention what they read in Dirt wheels cause everytime someone does they get a flaming pile of crap shot at there faces. Is dirt wheels really that unreliable, does no one ever trust that they say any truth? Everytime they saysomething good about a product it's cause they want ad money? everytime they say something bad it's cause that products competitor spends more money in ads?
Originally posted by joe1l@May 6 2004, 12:35 PM
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I had one of those lids! and I already metioned that it cut down my airflow ALOT!! I'm not saying the idea is not a good one, but just will not perform like an open airbox or even a cut airbox. The jetting will be different! the fact that dirtwheel wrote and article and said that it peforms like an open airbox, just proves to me once again that they are an unreliable source, Desert 450r has a point in saying that they don't want to piss off potential advertisers. There is a reason why dirtwheels test certain products and not others and that is $$$$ I'm sure some one will have to pay to get their product evaluated in dirtwheels..i mean there is no better advertising!! the lid is a nice alternative to running a an airbox lid, but it is not an alternative to running an open airbox lid ...IMO [/b][/quote]why does anyone ever mention what they read in Dirt wheels cause everytime someone does they get a flaming pile of crap shot at there faces. Is dirt wheels really that unreliable, does no one ever trust that they say any truth? Everytime they saysomething good about a product it's cause they want ad money? everytime they say something bad it's cause that products competitor spends more money in ads?
I ran one of these lids on a suzuki z400 with the same jetting as no lid at all and had no problems at all. I couldn't notice a difference. I have one for my r now and just got my bike back today so I haven't tried it yet. As far as not flowing as well as a cut lid, The hole for the ehs lid is alot bigger than the hrc hole so it should flow better. Why do you think it wouldn't? [/b][/quote]Originally posted by desert_450r+May 6 2004, 10:01 PM-->Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 07:13 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-joe1l<div class='quotemain'>why does anyone ever mention what they read in Dirt wheels cause everytime someone does they get a flaming pile of crap shot at there faces. Is dirt wheels really that unreliable, does no one ever trust that they say any truth? Everytime they saysomething good about a product it's cause they want ad money? everytime they say something bad it's cause that products competitor spends more money in ads?@May 6 2004, 12:35 PM
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I had one of those lids! and I already metioned that it cut down my airflow ALOT!! I'm not saying the idea is not a good one, but just will not perform like an open airbox or even a cut airbox. The jetting will be different! the fact that dirtwheel wrote and article and said that it peforms like an open airbox, just proves to me once again that they are an unreliable source, Desert 450r has a point in saying that they don't want to piss off potential advertisers. There is a reason why dirtwheels test certain products and not others and that is $$$$ I'm sure some one will have to pay to get their product evaluated in dirtwheels..i mean there is no better advertising!! the lid is a nice alternative to running a an airbox lid, but it is not an alternative to running an open airbox lid ...IMO