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Yes there the same.
 

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Thank you,now another problem. The owner manuel of the 450r I bought is not in english, do any one know where one can down load the manuel?
 

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There is a parts list on www.servicehonda.com under oem parts. It's in Adobe format, I havent seen the service manual on line. Contact you dealer or write to Honda and request one.
 
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