Just measured up my new to me 05 450r. Its 47 inches wide (durablue x-33 axle) in the rear and 43 inches wide in the front. As i understand, it would be better to be equal width in the front and rear. That being said i have read offset wheels and wheel spacers affect bump steer in a negative way. My question is am i better off leaving it the way it is or getting offset wheels or wheel spacers. Which is the worse? Also what offset wheels would i need to make up the difference 3-2 or 4-1? I know the correct way would be to order up a set of plus 2 a-arms but thats not in my budget right now with my seven year old racing motocross. Thanks in advance and sorry for the newbie questions. This is my first atv (been riding mx bikes) since the days of the 250r trikes :)

for offset of wheels factory wheels are around 3.75+1.75

4+1 you will be losing about a inch or more with over factory but gaining alot of control from reduced bumpsteer

3+2 you will be gaining probably less than a inch since this is about the factory spacing

but 2+3 you will gain around 1-2 inches of width but gaining bumpsteer as you know and its hard to find a good wheel in 2+3 offset only ones i could ever find was ITP t-9 which suck balls


if it where me i would order up a set of G-force wheel spacers OR keep it the way it is for now (which isnt going to hurt anything) and save up for a set of used arms for sale on here for around 300 bucks or so

+2 standard travel arms sell for around that and sometimes lower on here and other forums all the time and standard travel will work with factory shocks

hope this helps

Yeah if i could find a set of +2 a-arms for the front for cheap i guess that would be my best bet. I wasnt sure if they would work with stock shocks or not. Thanks for the info....

yea you need a set of standard travel or ST arms, its the Long travel or LT arms you cannot use your stock shocks with

if i remember right you can get a brand new set of JD performance arms for 500 in +1, +2, or +3 that would be a total of 6" wider

wait to get a set of arms. i would not do the spacers. that will have the same effect as doing different offset wheels. it will handle better with the wide front, but it is already better than stock with the wide rear. it wont be a problem at all!

You're not gaining or losing ANY bumpsteer by simply switching wheels.

I'd save some coin for a good set of a-arms. The money you waste on wheel spacers could be put towards a-arms. I've seen used a-arm sets go for under $300 on here...

your frickin retarded if you think that, going to a wider offset wheel is the exact same as adding spacers and it WILL add bumpsteer

WRONG. Wheel offset does not affect bumpsteer. Bumpsteer is the change in toe as your suspension cycles through it travel. Does not matter what offset wheel you have, your change in toe will be the same. Wheel offset will affect the feedback that you feel through the bars though.

Everything else Hondaman01 said though is correct. Wheel offset alone is not going to get you there in the front. Your best bet would be to save up for some a-arms.

Doug

WRONG

the farther the Center of the wheel is away from the pivot point of the spindle (where the wheel turns) will increase the leverage the wheel has, and with the increased leverage the wheel has on the spindle when it hits a rock or another obstacle it WILL increase the amount the wheel gets turned from the hit (bumpsteer)

What you are describing is not bumpsteer. Here, read this post:

http://www.trx450r.org/forum/index.php?sho...psteer&st=0

Post #19 by Slamaro is really good.

Doug

well then my apologies it seems i was confused on the terms i had them backwards but my point is still a wider offset wheel you are going to feel alot more negative "feedback" or "kickback" or whatever you would like to call it

so sorry doug it really has been a long week for me lol if i could tell you how my week was you would understand lol

So I get called a retard, for posting correct information, then you create a thread titled with my user name telling everyone how I'm a jerk? This hardly seems fair!


Just to get this back on topic though...


I'd get a good set of used arms in the +2 size, then run either a stockish offset rim (3:2) or get 4:1's if you can afford those. Your quad will handle better, tire you out less, and ride a lot better! (when properly equipped with a good set of shocks)

Are you planning on doing any suspension work as far as shocks are concerned?

with your current set up, i would advise pulling the axle in or picking up a used OEM axle to narrow your rear end.