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hondafreak
Heard, alot about this guy went by to visit and seen him dynoing this 450r. He said it was a 640 and it had a mikuni carb off a harley it was a 48 I believe it had water lines that ran out side the head and into the back of the cylinder . He told me it was running VP DRT race gas . Here are the runs I took pics of what do you all think? He said its still in R&D and would be ready for the next fourstroke wars. The tires where spinning on the dyno at lower rpms do you think it could put out more power ?



I spoke with John and re posted the runs on my last post he was a little concerned but enjoys sharing with everyone he said he is not here to compete just has fun tinkering with these machines
YQR
I take it this is Johns 640?

Your first post today? lol .. and joined today.... Good power...
RARRACING
welcome and that is alot of power i want one lol
hondafreak
QUOTE(RARRACING @ Aug 13 2009, 12:01 AM) *
welcome and that is alot of power i want one lol

hondafreak
QUOTE(RARRACING @ Aug 13 2009, 12:01 AM) *
welcome and that is alot of power i want one lol

Thanks, and yes John is the one who built this crazy machine, he said this was the place to come for help and information on the 450r . I have a 06 .
dr dig-it
move over r/e''''
mwsartain
You should have posted the photo's real small and blacked out all of the detail!

LOL, inside joke!


It'll be cool to see this thing run!
Racers Edge az.
Wow unworthy.gif
HRE
QUOTE(dr dig-it @ Aug 13 2009, 12:53 AM) *
move over r/e''''



How do you know RE does not have a toy in the arsenal that can/will do this? no_bashing1.gif

I've seen their work and heard great stories of their customer service so I am sure their customers are there to stay!
2fasthondas
QUOTE(hondafreak @ Aug 12 2009, 11:42 PM) *
Heard, alot about this guy went by to visit and seen him dynoing this 450r. He said it was a 640 and it had a mikuni carb off a harley it was a 48 I believe it had water lines that ran out side the head and into the back of the cylinder . He told me it was running VP DRT race gas . Here are the runs I took pics of what do you all think? He said its still in R&D and would be ready for the next fourstroke wars. The tires where spinning on the dyno at lower rpms do you think it could put out more power ?

W.T.F I not shure John wanted these #'s posted. This the motor is the one that I am going to run. Just wanted to run my 550 this weekend at Pismo and then set up the 640 for Labor Day at Pismo.
jkulysses
I doubt he'd let him take pics of the dyno sheet if he was really all that worried about them ending up on the internet.
socaltrx
wow. im just going to stay out of this...
DIRTWIZARD
QUOTE(dr dig-it @ Aug 13 2009, 01:53 AM) *
move over r/e''''



rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif Dont bank on it...... cheers.gif
dtzalba450r
I aint worried about it...my only question is how did these builds go from making mid-highs 60s to well over 80? Guess I need to find a new line of work!
DIRTWIZARD
QUOTE(HRE @ Aug 13 2009, 10:40 AM) *
QUOTE(dr dig-it @ Aug 13 2009, 12:53 AM) *
move over r/e''''



How do you know RE does not have a toy in the arsenal that can/will do this? no_bashing1.gif

I've seen their work and heard great stories of their customer service so I am sure their customers are there to stay!


They will have something dont think not....RE aleays puts on a show...I actually talked to John today about my head and he is definately one of the nicest guys I've talked with in the industry....The way he put it down to me was top notch and second to none...
J-HILT
QUOTE(dr dig-it @ Aug 13 2009, 12:53 AM) *
move over r/e''''


This thing must have won KOTH if we're moving over. Very nice numbers, but we aren't going any where soon innocent.gif
2fasthondas
QUOTE(jkulysses @ Aug 13 2009, 10:17 AM) *
I doubt he'd let him take pics of the dyno sheet if he was really all that worried about them ending up on the internet.


Well I can tell you that I did not want them posted. I would rather show you how much power it has on the strip. innocent.gif
dunepred
hey 2fasthondas a guy in the FSA forum started a thread talking about a trip to pismo.he wants all fast bike to be there.....this should be a good weekend to put some seat time on her....Augusto 29th i think!!
moi
could be a raptor dyno graph???whos knows.... question.gif
thunder71173
Nice #s glad to see you had what it takes to finish something.
J&J
[quote name='Racers Edge az.' post='711821' date='Aug 13 2009, 09:37 AM']Wow unworthy.gif[/quote Thanks

pw_tony
It's not a Raptor.... the power curve doesn't resemble any raptor curve I've ever seen.

You guys are comparing dyno numbers again banghead.gif
hondafreak
QUOTE(pw_tony @ Aug 13 2009, 05:58 PM) *
It's not a Raptor.... the power curve doesn't resemble any raptor curve I've ever seen.

You guys are comparing dyno numbers again banghead.gif

I dont recall comparing any numbers, just was amazed at that crazy engine ! And power it put out !
06erDJ450
Here is my 471. I'll be at FSA with it.




dunepred
QUOTE(06erDJ450 @ Aug 13 2009, 07:06 PM) *
Here is my 471. I'll be at FSA with it.


hey that looks just like mine _specialED.gif
J&J
QUOTE(pw_tony @ Aug 13 2009, 05:58 PM) *
It's not a Raptor.... the power curve doesn't resemble any raptor curve I've ever seen.

You guys are comparing dyno numbers again banghead.gif
hondafreak
ASKED TO REMOVE THE DYNOS SORRY !!!!!!
Knowpig
QUOTE(mwsartain @ Aug 13 2009, 05:28 AM) *
You should have posted the photo's real small and blacked out all of the detail!

LOL, inside joke!


It'll be cool to see this thing run!

You know what, it took me over a full hour before I figured that ou are a funny SOB Mark!
You are the king!
556KingR
QUOTE(mwsartain @ Aug 13 2009, 08:28 AM) *
You should have posted the photo's real small and blacked out all of the detail!

LOL, inside joke!


It'll be cool to see this thing run!



still being your usual pecker head I see Mark. I guess when you get spanked by 50hp builds all day long and cant figure out how to properly fill your own tires with air you get like that in life.

Dont be jelous, Ill take on any one of your crews 70+ HP builds. Take a ride, Im here....... Maybe when we're done I can relocate your eyes from the back of your azz to the front of your face.
Knowpig
QUOTE(556KingR @ Aug 15 2009, 06:35 AM) *
still being your usual pecker head I see Mark. I guess when you get spanked by 50hp builds all day long and cant figure out how to properly fill your own tires with air you get like that in life.

Dont be jelous, Ill take on any one of your crews 70+ HP builds. Take a ride, Im here....... Maybe when we're done I can relocate your eyes from the back of your azz to the front of your face.


I don't think he was trying to take anything away from your build.
It's just funny how everyone will give you ALL the details in the world to get to strong 50's HP.
But when you want to really take it to the next level, everyone gets into super-secret mode.

Anyway, congrats to J&J and you as well on strong numbers.
It's good to know that there are people still finding more....................................
That just means sooner or later it will trickle down to wishpigs and Knowpigs.
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J&J
QUOTE(Knowpig @ Aug 15 2009, 11:17 AM) *
QUOTE(556KingR @ Aug 15 2009, 06:35 AM) *
still being your usual pecker head I see Mark. I guess when you get spanked by 50hp builds all day long and cant figure out how to properly fill your own tires with air you get like that in life.

Dont be jelous, Ill take on any one of your crews 70+ HP builds. Take a ride, Im here....... Maybe when we're done I can relocate your eyes from the back of your azz to the front of your face.


I don't think he was trying to take anything away from your build.
It's just funny how everyone will give you ALL the details in the world to get to strong 50's HP.
But when you want to really take it to the next level, everyone gets into super-secret mode.

Anyway, congrats to J&J and you as well on strong numbers.
It's good to know that there are people still finding more....................................
That just means sooner or later it will trickle down to wishpigs and Knowpigs.
post-696-1105671348.gif

Thanks, for all the compliments! I have been hesitant to post much , anyway Here is a pic of the head that will produce this kinda power!!! As always no secrets from me enjoy If you have any questions pm me as I still am taking care of my ill mother and her finances will try to answer when I can !!!
J&J
Pic of cylinder
hondafreak
Here is the graphs again no biggie I was told no_bashing1.gif
dr dig-it
when the clutch levers drop,all the ''bs'' will stop'''' ooooooooooooooooooooooyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. you no you like that''''
poorboy
ARe those nipples for coolant or some thing else?
wolfpack
QUOTE(poorboy @ Aug 17 2009, 12:08 AM) *
ARe those nipples for coolant or some thing else?


Beer... its for the keg in the back.
poorboy
QUOTE(wolfpack @ Aug 17 2009, 09:04 AM) *
QUOTE(poorboy @ Aug 17 2009, 12:08 AM) *
ARe those nipples for coolant or some thing else?


Beer... its for the keg in the back.


Must have a little shimmy and sway then.
mm1472
QUOTE(hondafreak @ Aug 15 2009, 06:01 PM) *
Here is the graphs again no biggie I was told no_bashing1.gif
Ive seen this 85 Hp. bike run . I know John from Pismo testing it hauls ass. Now lets see if he can keep it together.
hondafreak
QUOTE(mm1472 @ Aug 17 2009, 03:35 PM) *
QUOTE(hondafreak @ Aug 15 2009, 06:01 PM) *
Here is the graphs again no biggie I was told no_bashing1.gif
Ive seen this 85 Hp. bike run . I know John from Pismo testing it hauls ass. Now lets see if he can keep it together.

I think he has it figured out now wish I could have been there to see that thing run
Morgan
Lookin good, looking good.

RE fire up the stockbore.

Only kidding of course, Ive got respect.gif
poorboy
All your shop towls are accounted for right??? Just kidding. Hope it runs well and long.
Mr. Torque
QUOTE(poorboy @ Aug 17 2009, 01:08 AM) *
ARe those nipples for coolant or some thing else?


More than likely to allow for greater cooling capacity and flow. Making that much HP on a single cylinder is really gonna need some help to prevent destruction.
poorboy
QUOTE(Mr. Torque @ Aug 21 2009, 07:20 AM) *
QUOTE(poorboy @ Aug 17 2009, 01:08 AM) *
ARe those nipples for coolant or some thing else?


More than likely to allow for greater cooling capacity and flow. Making that much HP on a single cylinder is really gonna need some help to prevent destruction.



that's what i'm assuming but i've seen some crazy stuff before seen a hole put in the intake tract to accomodate NO2 injection before.
Knowpig
If you notice, the bore is so big it took out the coolant passages to the head. I think he had to use those fittings to direct coolant to the head.
Icecream
VERY nice power right there... thumbsup.gif
ZIPS-TRX
QUOTE(06erDJ450 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:06 PM) *
Here is my 471. I'll be at FSA with it.



Ive seen alot of dyno graphs in my day but this one takes the cake!

Notice its displayed in MPH and no torque output. Take notice of the power curve.

I dont need to go into detail as to why that is.......LOL.

scrapper450r
LMAO......... just noticed that. 125 mph. 90 hp. thats amazing.
scrapper450r
QUOTE(556KingR @ Aug 15 2009, 09:35 AM) *
QUOTE(mwsartain @ Aug 13 2009, 08:28 AM) *
You should have posted the photo's real small and blacked out all of the detail!

LOL, inside joke!


It'll be cool to see this thing run!






QUOTE(Knowpig @ Aug 15 2009, 12:17 PM) *
QUOTE(556KingR @ Aug 15 2009, 06:35 AM) *
still being your usual pecker head I see Mark. I guess when you get spanked by 50hp builds all day long and cant figure out how to properly fill your own tires with air you get like that in life.

Dont be jelous, Ill take on any one of your crews 70+ HP builds. Take a ride, Im here....... Maybe when we're done I can relocate your eyes from the back of your azz to the front of your face.


I don't think he was trying to take anything away from your build.
It's just funny how everyone will give you ALL the details in the world to get to strong 50's HP.
But when you want to really take it to the next level, everyone gets into super-secret mode



i havent seen RE or anyone with their 70hp builds spilling the beans on the components they used to get there.

not to mention the high hp dasa builds that none of their owners can show a dyno sheet on.

there is no secrets with kings build. if someone was genuinely interested, they would find out more than they need to know or could understand. the way this site has turned, i would'nt be giving it out for free either.
BadinBlack
QUOTE(ZIPS-TRX @ Aug 21 2009, 08:23 PM) *
QUOTE(06erDJ450 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:06 PM) *
Here is my 471. I'll be at FSA with it.



Ive seen alot of dyno graphs in my day but this one takes the cake!

Notice its displayed in MPH and no torque output. Take notice of the power curve.

I dont need to go into detail as to why that is.......LOL.

i don't think you found the humor in this one lol
06erDJ450
QUOTE(BadinBlack @ Aug 21 2009, 09:08 PM) *
QUOTE(ZIPS-TRX @ Aug 21 2009, 08:23 PM) *
QUOTE(06erDJ450 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:06 PM) *
Here is my 471. I'll be at FSA with it.



Ive seen alot of dyno graphs in my day but this one takes the cake!

Notice its displayed in MPH and no torque output. Take notice of the power curve.

I dont need to go into detail as to why that is.......LOL.

i don't think you found the humor in this one lol


No sh!t.....
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