Went to my first grand prix at 29 Palms on Saturday. I drove 170 miles, paid 15 dollars st the gate, 48 dollars race entry, 25 dollars for transponder, already got AMA and D37 membership at last Enduro race,and I raced my a$$ off to a second place finish. NO TROPHY for 2nd!!!!!!

What a scam!!! lets see MR HILLTOPPER JERKFACES, 60 quads at 48 dollars race and 15 dollars gate.I believe thats about 3980.00 dollars!!!! WHY NOT TROPHIES FOR 1,2,3 EVERY CLASS?!!!!! OR 1AND 2!!

I had fun and the track was awsome but, 63 bucks with no payout and only a small handful of trophies.???? I say absorbing greedy scumbags! I wish somebody else would promote cool races besides these old crappy D37 retard clubs.

I hope all the BIG 6 race promoters choke on the steak and rib dinners they buy with my money and die next to thier double wide paradise!

What do you guys think?

Yeah man that sucks kind of expensive for no thropie reason why I have not race here in the us I been doing tcouple of the mexican gran prix /desaert desert series racing feess could be lanywhere from $45.00 to $150.00 and guarantee thrpie to 1st 2nd and 3rd on all clases pro, expert, sportsman, and novie or beginneer! and the food is good and people may say its insecure but if only go to the race places and mind ur own businees its great! oh nad there is no noise regulations or spark arrestor except SCORE!

I actually had a great time.... I was just venting a little.
I want to know more about these Mexican races.........................

Went to my first grand prix at 29 Palms on Saturday. I drove 170 miles, paid 15 dollars st the gate, 48 dollars race entry, 25 dollars for transponder, already got AMA and D37 membership at last Enduro race,and I raced my a$$ off to a second place finish. NO TROPHY for 2nd!!!!!!

What a scam!!! lets see MR HILLTOPPER JERKFACES, 60 quads at 48 dollars race and 15 dollars gate.I believe thats about 3980.00 dollars!!!! WHY NOT TROPHIES FOR 1,2,3 EVERY CLASS?!!!!! OR 1AND 2!!

I had fun and the track was awsome but, 63 bucks with no payout and only a small handful of trophies.???? I say absorbing greedy scumbags! I wish somebody else would promote cool races besides these old crappy D37 retard clubs.

I hope all the BIG 6 race promoters choke on the steak and rib dinners they buy with my money and die next to thier double wide paradise!

What do you guys think?

D-37 clubs dont make any money off having a race. They are lucky if they break even. The Grand Prixs tend to make them more money that they have to make up for the desert races where they barely pull it out. The first race is always the most expensive due to joining AMA, joining D-37, then paying for the race. The second race will be cheap, as all you have to pay for is the race, and parking.

You should try some of the races at the end of the year when the season resumes after summer break.

I have always disagreed with the trophy policy which is based on percentage. The more riders in your class, the further down they trophy. I always believed in a podium finish (1st-3rd) is a trophy.

What class did you race in ??

Good post. I think more people who get ripped off should post on here and any other forum to get the word out. I don't care if it's competing on a national level or some outlaw circuit in B.F.E.

Yeah , I was venting right after the race. I read what I wrote now, and it sounds a bit silly and harsh. I used to race stock cars local and was paid 25 dollars for last place........ I just stand behind the trophy for 2nd place and a little ego payout for the hard effort it takes. Maybe they could have a cheap plywood podium with a trophy presentation and Grumpy Photos could sell you pictures.? I'm sure a couple 2nd place trophies cost about six dollars each and they could do a computer printout for 3rd. This would make the whole experience complete and maybe more people would show up anyway.It just doesnt seem like rocket science to me .



The first excuse laid out when the complaints start coming is the "INSURANCE" --- when in actuality the insurance has become so expensive that most don't even have it anymore hense the liability and endimnity waiver for competitors and LLC status for the facilities, and the general expenses follow that.
I agree that fuel costs over the past few years have taken a major toll on race tracks nationwide, but at the same time these tracks all have areas where they could become a little more effecient to compensate.
My son and I went to an event in March of this year that had taken in almost $9000.00 between spectators and competitors and they too only provided a trophy for 1st place in each class and a 75 percent payback for the Open Pro class. By the time the second event was finished they may have taken in $1500.00 if they were lucky.
Unfortunately, the race tracks that are honest and try to do right for the competitors also suffer when these greedy outfits take advantage, and we all suffer in return, so when you voice your opinions and results of the bad experiences, word it carefully, and promote the tracks and associations that do put on an honest and fair event.
JMHO