hello. i would like to know what the decible rating of a supertrapp 4 inch aluminum race series is on a 1985 honda atc 350x.
yes,,, i am asking about a trike. i really dont care if you think trikes are crap.
i just would like to know. Any other trike owners, please contact me or add me.
thank you-
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QUOTE(honda_350x_kid @ Oct 18 2008, 06:42 PM) 
hello. i would like to know what the decible rating of a supertrapp 4 inch aluminum race series is on a 1985 honda atc 350x.
yes,,, i am asking about a trike. i really dont care if you think trikes are crap.
i just would like to know. Any other trike owners, please contact me or add me.
thank you-
honda_350x_kidClick to view attachment
yes,,, i am asking about a trike. i really dont care if you think trikes are crap.
i just would like to know. Any other trike owners, please contact me or add me.
thank you-
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How fast are those 350x's compared to a 450r?
if i can find one cheap ill get one had a hand full long time ago and love them
QUOTE(r450er @ Oct 18 2008, 07:07 PM)
QUOTE(honda_350x_kid @ Oct 18 2008, 06:42 PM)
hello. i would like to know what the decible rating of a supertrapp 4 inch aluminum race series is on a 1985 honda atc 350x.
yes,,, i am asking about a trike. i really dont care if you think trikes are crap.
i just would like to know. Any other trike owners, please contact me or add me.
thank you-
honda_350x_kidClick to view attachment
yes,,, i am asking about a trike. i really dont care if you think trikes are crap.
i just would like to know. Any other trike owners, please contact me or add me.
thank you-
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How fast are those 350x's compared to a 450r?
these 350x's stock will do 72 mph gps.
now it does atleast 75 mph.
these things are tourque monsters!
I still want to get a 350X so I think your trike is sick. I grew up ridin 3 wheels and still think it's more fun than ridin on 4 so props to you. Everybody should show some love to the 350X and 250R trike riders.
as the owner of a 350x...I have to tell you that a stock 350x will not do 70. with stock gearing and stock tires, a completely stock bike will do 61 to 62 mph.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
to answer the kids question, i dont know what the db, but they are loud lol.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 22 2008, 09:59 PM)
as the owner of a 350x...I have to tell you that a stock 350x will not do 70. with stock gearing and stock tires, a completely stock bike will do 61 to 62 mph.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
What kind of upgraded valves are you using?
megacyle makes upgraded spring, and the new vesrah valves are better than the old honda ones. the only issue with these is float...at extremely high rpms.
What kind of upgraded valves are you using?
QUOTE(DB450R @ Oct 26 2008, 10:31 AM)
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 22 2008, 09:59 PM)
as the owner of a 350x...I have to tell you that a stock 350x will not do 70. with stock gearing and stock tires, a completely stock bike will do 61 to 62 mph.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
What kind of upgraded valves are you using?
QUOTE(ttracer65 @ Oct 22 2008, 11:29 PM)
to answer the kids question, i dont know what the db, but they are loud lol.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
Not trying to jack the thread but as long as were talking 350X stuff please elaberate on some of your mods...Im finding this 350X info intresting. Id love to make mine in the mid 30s...mine has K/N filter, DG pipe and jetting.
Darryl
QUOTE(DB450R @ Oct 26 2008, 11:06 PM)
QUOTE(ttracer65 @ Oct 22 2008, 11:29 PM)
to answer the kids question, i dont know what the db, but they are loud lol.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
Not trying to jack the thread but as long as were talking 350X stuff please elaberate on some of your mods...Im finding this 350X info intresting. Id love to make mine in the mid 30s...mine has K/N filter, DG pipe and jetting.
Darryl
web 40b grind cam, sparks national head, 400ex carb (i want to try the '04-5 trx450r carb) 12:1 82mm wiseco piston. i dont remember the stroke of the stroker, i will have to check.
QUOTE(ttracer65 @ Oct 26 2008, 11:21 PM)
QUOTE(DB450R @ Oct 26 2008, 11:06 PM)
QUOTE(ttracer65 @ Oct 22 2008, 11:29 PM)
to answer the kids question, i dont know what the db, but they are loud lol.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
Not trying to jack the thread but as long as were talking 350X stuff please elaberate on some of your mods...Im finding this 350X info intresting. Id love to make mine in the mid 30s...mine has K/N filter, DG pipe and jetting.
Darryl
web 40b grind cam, sparks national head, 400ex carb (i want to try the '04-5 trx450r carb) 12:1 82mm wiseco piston. i dont remember the stroke of the stroker, i will have to check.
Avoid that trxcarb at all costs. The 400ex carb is actually only a 35.5mm. The 37fcr is much better suited to the 350x engine. Plus, more options to tune.
If you do all topend however, that 450 carb is the way to go. But you'll have powerband somewhat like a two stroke.
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 22 2008, 10:59 PM)
as the owner of a 350x...I have to tell you that a stock 350x will not do 70. with stock gearing and stock tires, a completely stock bike will do 61 to 62 mph.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
It has a huge amount of torque though, with a quick gearing swap you can break 80mph...and the bike will still pull the front end up in every gear except 5th and 6th.
Stock the bike puts down 22hp at the wheels...not too shabby for 25 years old.
With a 37mm FCR, a 450r exhaust, megacycle cam, light portwork, a lightened flywheel, and rebuilt valves...you can break 30hp. These bikes have no rev limiters, and with upgraded valves...they rev to the moon and back. With the much lighter flywheel, they rev A LOT quicker, nowhere like the new 450s though. The twist throttle on mine is quite scary at times, especially when tuning.
How do they compare with a 450r...with the mods I just listed, on trails or dunes, you'd have a helluva time trying to lose a competent driver. In a straight 300ft drag, you might get two-three bike lengths if you're piped and jetted and you get a damned good launch.
There are other more extreme methods of getting power....big bore kits out to 452...coupled with a stroker can get you over 500ccs...but without extreme portwork, you won't be seeing that much of a gain.
Now...if you do that extreme bigbore and then top it off with an ascott 500 or xr500 head, I've seen dyno's of over 60hp. These aren't the rule so much as the exception. I've heard of more people doing most of these mods and then scattering it on the Dyno.
As it is right now, with the crate engine I've found, coupled with the mods I'm going to be throwing at my bike...thanks to a few members on here for the 450r parts...if any of you gents on a 450r would like to be scared out of your pants, feel free to hop on.
Only one rule, you have to be able to start it first.
Roll it to top dead center, hang on to the bars, stand on the kicker...and jump. Meanwhile, pray that your foot doesn't slip, or that your decompression cable doesn't decide not to work.
Ps...if you sneeze with the twisty, you might go over backward. They have a ton of torque.
I don't know were your getting your info but your are DEAD wrong about the 350X top speed and horsepower.
A stock 350X will absolutly do 72 mph. I have had 350X's since brand new and i have proven this many differant ways.
Also a stock 350X puts out more then 22hp. and can easily get over 30hp without all the mods you listed Stock they put out 27hp. and simply replacing the pipe will get you over 30. the ascot/xr 500 head was a dead issue in the 80's. it was a experiment that never went far. Modifying the stock head is the better option.
as far as starting they are not as difficult as people make them out to be. the problem lies in lack of proper technique. Bringing the motor to top dead center then jumping on it is how i would expect a novice 85lb girl to try. Instead bring the motor up to top dead center...THEN RELEASE the kicker back to normal THEN kick it with a thourough kick. this will activate the decompression cable and make it effective.
and running a twist is easy once you get rid of the death grip.
QUOTE(DB450R @ Oct 27 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(ttracer65 @ Oct 22 2008, 11:29 PM)
to answer the kids question, i dont know what the db, but they are loud lol.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
Not trying to jack the thread but as long as were talking 350X stuff please elaberate on some of your mods...Im finding this 350X info intresting. Id love to make mine in the mid 30s...mine has K/N filter, DG pipe and jetting.
Darryl
If you want to get into the Mid 30's a Air filter/no air box lid, Pipe, high compression piston will get you around 33. any more you'll need cam and porting. A larger carb would be good but unless you do porting and or valve work you will not see the max benefits from the carb.
QUOTE(Black Sheep @ Oct 28 2008, 02:12 PM)
QUOTE(DB450R @ Oct 27 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(ttracer65 @ Oct 22 2008, 11:29 PM)
to answer the kids question, i dont know what the db, but they are loud lol.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
i had a stroker 390(stock sleeve yet) that made 38 hp and you couldnt draw the power line any straighter. its only a 360 now but i bet it still makes over 30 :D.
Not trying to jack the thread but as long as were talking 350X stuff please elaberate on some of your mods...Im finding this 350X info intresting. Id love to make mine in the mid 30s...mine has K/N filter, DG pipe and jetting.
Darryl
If you want to get into the Mid 30's a Air filter/no air box lid, Pipe, high compression piston will get you around 33. any more you'll need cam and porting. A larger carb would be good but unless you do porting and or valve work you will not see the max benefits from the carb.
I would hope that you read the words "at the wheels"
http://www.geocities.com/gtthunder.geo/350x.jpg
the 86 350x was only rated by honda at 27 hp....at the crank. check the old sales brochures.
as for the top speed, if you have the original ohtsu ballon tires, you do have a better chance of touching 72...but I still wouldn't hold my breath.
I would hope that you read the words "at the wheels"
http://www.geocities.com/gtthunder.geo/350x.jpg
the 86 350x was only rated by honda at 27 hp....at the crank. check the old sales brochures.
as for the top speed, if you have the original ohtsu ballon tires, you do have a better chance of touching 72...but I still wouldn't hold my breath.
http://www.geocities.com/gtthunder.geo/350x.jpg
the 86 350x was only rated by honda at 27 hp....at the crank. check the old sales brochures.
as for the top speed, if you have the original ohtsu ballon tires, you do have a better chance of touching 72...but I still wouldn't hold my breath.
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 28 2008, 10:54 PM)
I would hope that you read the words "at the wheels"
http://www.geocities.com/gtthunder.geo/350x.jpg
the 86 350x was only rated by honda at 27 hp....at the crank. check the old sales brochures.
as for the top speed, if you have the original ohtsu ballon tires, you do have a better chance of touching 72...but I still wouldn't hold my breath.
http://www.geocities.com/gtthunder.geo/350x.jpg
the 86 350x was only rated by honda at 27 hp....at the crank. check the old sales brochures.
as for the top speed, if you have the original ohtsu ballon tires, you do have a better chance of touching 72...but I still wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't have to research a old artical, I was there in 1985/86 with Brand new 350X's.
that Dnyo is meaningless. For one a 400Ex puts out 27.4 HP the 350X 27. Both accrding to Original titles from Honda. additionally since the dnyo run was comparing a 350X with a 400ex it is safe to say the 350X was not brand new. therefore the dyno sheet is meaningless for this discussion of what a 350X puts out when new.
as far as speed do some research of your own to Dirt Wheels May 1985. in it they state "top speed of just over 70mph" They used a Radar Gun. I tested this out in May? of 1985 when i bought my 350X. I was clocked next to my friend on his 85 XL600 doing 70+mph. I was also clocked by a police officer doing 72mph. Additionally you can do more research at Sidwinder.com They have a very accurate Formula for figuring out a machines top end. This formula is used by many top teams to figure out top speed. when using 350X numbers the formula works out to 72.2mph
May i ask what you were doing in 86?
i was drooling over the new 200x's lol...at 9 years old it would have been just a bit too much for me. PERFECT@!
I was swimming.
Now, black sheep aka mr. Atc, if you wouldn't have been banned from the other forum for such a poor attitude, you would have seen that a member recently dynoed a crate engine at 22 hp and with a little nos blowing, the bike touched 28.
As for radar guns, until laser tech made it's way into the field, those guns had over an 8mph margin of error. I've been working with the sheriffs office the last 7 years. Even the new radar guns get twitchy from time to time.
I merely came here to buy parts, you can be that three wheeler guy.
I'll grant that you're are likely correct concerning the 300ex rear, as I've only heard they fit, I've seen dynos. And no stock 350x is banging down 27 at the wheels. What I don't understand, is that even Honda rated these bikes at 27 at the crank.... And you're saying no, the bike really did it... How sad
Now, black sheep aka mr. Atc, if you wouldn't have been banned from the other forum for such a poor attitude, you would have seen that a member recently dynoed a crate engine at 22 hp and with a little nos blowing, the bike touched 28.
As for radar guns, until laser tech made it's way into the field, those guns had over an 8mph margin of error. I've been working with the sheriffs office the last 7 years. Even the new radar guns get twitchy from time to time.
I merely came here to buy parts, you can be that three wheeler guy.
I'll grant that you're are likely correct concerning the 300ex rear, as I've only heard they fit, I've seen dynos. And no stock 350x is banging down 27 at the wheels. What I don't understand, is that even Honda rated these bikes at 27 at the crank.... And you're saying no, the bike really did it... How sad
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 29 2008, 01:14 PM)
I was swimming.
according to your information your 22. so whe you say you were "swimming" in 86 i'm assuming you mean swimming in your daddy's ball bag...lol
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 29 2008, 01:14 PM)
Now, black sheep aka mr. Atc, if you wouldn't have been banned from the other forum for such a poor attitude, you would have seen that a member recently dynoed a crate engine at 22 hp and with a little nos blowing, the bike touched 28.
when people resort to off topic remarks/attacks on ones person it is usually because that party making the attack is losing the debate and therefore trying to devert the direction of the debate in order to misdirect the debate from there losing argument. Additionally I left that site because that site is more of a FEEL GOOD site filled with half truth information. I do not remember you asa member so i don't think you have any RELIABLE information to base your opinion on.
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 29 2008, 01:14 PM)
As for radar guns, until laser tech made it's way into the field, those guns had over an 8mph margin of error. I've been working with the sheriffs office the last 7 years. Even the new radar guns get twitchy from time to time.
It's ironic how law enforcement officers for years testified under oath to the accuracy of Radar guns. They have been doing this for dozens of years. Now all of a sudden someone in law enforcement says that NO they are not accurate. Therfore stating by opinion that all other officers before lied under oath.
Furthermore are you stating that a radar gun test done in california by the most respected ATV magazine was inacurate AND has the exact same inacuracy as a radar gun in a police car on the east coast which verified the other result???
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 29 2008, 01:14 PM)
I merely came here to buy parts, you can be that three wheeler guy.
that very well maybe but, you decided to post on another subject so here we are!!!
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 29 2008, 01:14 PM)
I'll grant that you're are likely correct concerning the 300ex rear, as I've only heard they fit, I've seen dynos. And no stock 350x is banging down 27 at the wheels. What I don't understand, is that even Honda rated these bikes at 27 at the crank.... And you're saying no, the bike really did it... How sad
What i don't understand is were did i once mentioned HP at either the crank or wheel. I mearlly stated CORRECTLY that according to Honda/NY DMV/TiTle the 350x has 27 hp and the 400ex has 27.5 hp stock. AND that any Dyno done 20 yrs after the fact is irrelevnt.
Finally i think people can make up there own minds as who to believe, someone with over 20rs experiance with the very bike in question OR someone barly over 20 yrs old going off of his own research.
BTW...were did your name "The Goat" come from...
I stated that the hp was 27 at the crank...and 22 at the wheels...you said I was dead wrong.
"Also a stock 350X puts out more then 22hp. and can easily get over 30hp without all the mods you listed Stock they put out 27hp. "
I'm merely defending the fact that, in this situation, experience with every type or bike or not...I'm correct.
You are correct in stating that pipe change will net a large gain, as the stock pipe is HIGHLY restrictive. Switching to a 1.5 inch pipe where the duals converge will also net another fairly substantial gain.
as for the radar guns accuracy...the old guns are inaccurate, always have been. the earliest models would only pick up the larger vehicle.
In the fall of 2004 I was clocked in a scion XB doing 137 mph going down a gradient.... those vehicles are limited mechanically to 129mph...and yet my buddies gun was reading 137. I may have been doing 123 tops. That was using the newest JUGS radar gun.
It's something that's blatantly ignored by the courts system. I'm not saying your guns were flawed, I'm just saying, they aren't accurate enough to where I would bet the farm on it.
"Also a stock 350X puts out more then 22hp. and can easily get over 30hp without all the mods you listed Stock they put out 27hp. "
I'm merely defending the fact that, in this situation, experience with every type or bike or not...I'm correct.
You are correct in stating that pipe change will net a large gain, as the stock pipe is HIGHLY restrictive. Switching to a 1.5 inch pipe where the duals converge will also net another fairly substantial gain.
as for the radar guns accuracy...the old guns are inaccurate, always have been. the earliest models would only pick up the larger vehicle.
In the fall of 2004 I was clocked in a scion XB doing 137 mph going down a gradient.... those vehicles are limited mechanically to 129mph...and yet my buddies gun was reading 137. I may have been doing 123 tops. That was using the newest JUGS radar gun.
It's something that's blatantly ignored by the courts system. I'm not saying your guns were flawed, I'm just saying, they aren't accurate enough to where I would bet the farm on it.
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 30 2008, 12:01 AM)
I stated that the hp was 27 at the crank...and 22 at the wheels...you said I was dead wrong.
I'm merely defending the fact that, in this situation, experience with every type or bike or not...I'm correct.
I'm merely defending the fact that, in this situation, experience with every type or bike or not...I'm correct.
your original posted stated 61-62 mph and 22 hp stock. that was what i replied to as you being dead wrong. NOWHERE have i stated ANYTHING about rear wheel H.P. because that is not a very accurate way to determine H.P. There are to many variables in measuring H.P. that way that are not motor related, Tires, chains, axle bearings can all distort H.P. numbers. I rely on Crank Numbers. If you then stated AFTER the fact about the 27H.P. at the crank then your are correct in correcting yourself.
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 30 2008, 12:01 AM)
You are correct in stating that pipe change will net a large gain, as the stock pipe is HIGHLY restrictive. Switching to a 1.5 inch pipe where the duals converge will also net another fairly substantial gain.
No argument there I have built my own exhuast systems
QUOTE(The Goat @ Oct 30 2008, 12:01 AM)
as for the radar guns accuracy...the old guns are inaccurate, always have been. the earliest models would only pick up the larger vehicle.
In the fall of 2004 I was clocked in a scion XB doing 137 mph going down a gradient.... those vehicles are limited mechanically to 129mph...and yet my buddies gun was reading 137. I may have been doing 123 tops. That was using the newest JUGS radar gun.
It's something that's blatantly ignored by the courts system. I'm not saying your guns were flawed, I'm just saying, they aren't accurate enough to where I would bet the farm on it.
In the fall of 2004 I was clocked in a scion XB doing 137 mph going down a gradient.... those vehicles are limited mechanically to 129mph...and yet my buddies gun was reading 137. I may have been doing 123 tops. That was using the newest JUGS radar gun.
It's something that's blatantly ignored by the courts system. I'm not saying your guns were flawed, I'm just saying, they aren't accurate enough to where I would bet the farm on it.
if i was relying SOLEY on ONE Rader guns then your argument would have validity. However, It is backed up by a second radar gun, the speedometer on a M/C right next to me AND a PROVEN MATHMATICAL FORUMLA that uses gear ratio's, final drive gearing, Vehicle weight, H.P., Tire Size. Now what you are saying is that 2 radar guns, a speedometer, the largest ATV magazine, And a proven formula are ALL wrong with the SAME conclusion And you who has NEVER ridden a Brand new 350X is right? is that what you are saying?
I have no problem agreeing that most 350X's nowadays are worn out and thus not as tight or fast as they once were. 60-65 would be a safe average. Even the crate motors...of which i have 4 are not as fast as my Original 85 motor was....FYI the 86's were slower then the 85's... Every crate motor i've bought all needed new clutches installed. One particular Crate motor only topped out at 55 before i replaced the clutch.
Look we can go on forever with this BUT, you can not accuratly say what a NEW 350X could do when you've never rode one.
now if you excuse me i Have a Brand New 450R trike i prefer to deal with.
I say who fckin cares??
The 350x is a kick butt classic bike and people love them!
I have one and the thing is a handful to ride but ive never had so much fun in my life. And trust me, these things will teach you how to use body language in corners if you ride it aggressivly!
Mine has a supertrapp pipe as well, and its probably around 98db max i would guess. It is not as loud as my 450r with the FMF factory four and powerbomb. Also, if your having troubles with noise regulations, thats what the discs are for. Less disks= Less noise.
The 350x is a kick butt classic bike and people love them!
I have one and the thing is a handful to ride but ive never had so much fun in my life. And trust me, these things will teach you how to use body language in corners if you ride it aggressivly!
Mine has a supertrapp pipe as well, and its probably around 98db max i would guess. It is not as loud as my 450r with the FMF factory four and powerbomb. Also, if your having troubles with noise regulations, thats what the discs are for. Less disks= Less noise.
QUOTE(RedRider42 @ Oct 31 2008, 08:40 PM)
I say who fckin cares??
The 350x is a kick butt classic bike and people love them!
I have one and the thing is a handful to ride but ive never had so much fun in my life. And trust me, these things will teach you how to use body language in corners if you ride it aggressivly!
The 350x is a kick butt classic bike and people love them!
I have one and the thing is a handful to ride but ive never had so much fun in my life. And trust me, these things will teach you how to use body language in corners if you ride it aggressivly!
You got that right. For 20yrs it was my main trike to ride...even over my 250R...this pic is from around 86 or so,,,
i absolutely love mine too, i have been from glamis sand dunes to WI frozen lakes on it and its hard to find a better ride. even over my 450R !
i have ice raced a couple of versions (one with an extended front end that lord knows who did, and a stock frame one) of it. the stock one handles REALLY well, the balance on these are about as perfect as it gets.
the chopper and the stock frame lol.
i have ice raced a couple of versions (one with an extended front end that lord knows who did, and a stock frame one) of it. the stock one handles REALLY well, the balance on these are about as perfect as it gets.
the chopper and the stock frame lol.
QUOTE(ttracer65 @ Nov 2 2008, 11:17 PM)
i absolutely love mine too, i have been from glamis sand dunes to WI frozen lakes on it and its hard to find a better ride. even over my 450R !
As much as i love 350X's i'd have to take this 450R over a X
Does any of you know if there is any axles that will interchange with the 350X? One of mine has a bent axle and there bringing big money on ebay and are rusty looking junk.
Darryl
Darryl
QUOTE(DB450R @ Nov 5 2008, 07:13 PM)
Does any of you know if there is any axles that will interchange with the 350X? One of mine has a bent axle and there bringing big money on ebay and are rusty looking junk.
Darryl
Darryl
There are no direct replacements. A 300 ex axle can be used but you will need 300ex sprocket.
Durablue still makes aftermarket axles for the 350X. Thats what I use. Stock axles are junk anyway IME
I grew up on dirt bikes but when I was 15 years old, summer of 94' or 95', I was haying in the summer for some old farmer and as we were loading the hay in the barn I spotted this broke azz beat to a pulp 86' 350x sittin in the corner. I asked him how much he wanted for it and he said $50. I got it home and my parents neighbor at the time happened to be a mechanic at the local kawasaki/suzuki shop so he helped me tear it down. All I had to do was clean and rebuild the carb and I used that kreem stuff to clean out the gas tank and that got it running. I still had to rebuild pretty much everything cause every seal on the thing was shot but me and my dad and neighbor worked on it all summer. It was a very sharp trike when i was all done and I ended up selling it for a quite a bit more than i put into it but to this day i miss that thing. My goal is to find another one when i have time to rebuild and tinker around on one.
How bout more trike pictures?
I've spent the last two dune seasons on this '85 250r. She's pretty sweet, I think!
I've spent the last two dune seasons on this '85 250r. She's pretty sweet, I think!
very nice...I still love riding trikes, they taught me how to ride and im passing that on to my son who started on a 185 and now rides a 200X. He is now after one of my 350Xs but hes only 11. He too has a passion for trikes and there power for teaching respect on how to ride. Its kinda funny when were out driving around there is not a trike around that misses his eye if theres one around he will see it and identify it. He just found out a couple years ago they dont make them anymore ya should of seen his eyes when he seen blacksheeps 450R trike (his new idol) LOL... He rides the 200X wherever my 450R goes. He will grow up as I did with some great trike stories to tell and remember
that's good to hear right there.
everyone should remember...without these babies...you'd have no 450s.
and 25 year old technology isn't too far behind.
everyone should remember...without these babies...you'd have no 450s.
and 25 year old technology isn't too far behind.
I had one and miss it dearly. I sold it back in 2001. All of my buddies had 400EXs and trust me we raced each other all the time in the dirt and on the highway. Drag racing and top end was almost dead even. I remember one time we went for a couple of miles pinned in high gear and we couldnt pass each other. So how ever fast a stock 400EX is on topend thats what my 350X would do. All was stock on both the 350X and the 400EXs. When I bought mine new in 86 I remember the salesman talking about it having 27hp per Honda.
QUOTE(700rider @ Dec 29 2008, 02:53 PM)
I had one and miss it dearly. I sold it back in 2001. All of my buddies had 400EXs and trust me we raced each other all the time in the dirt and on the highway. Drag racing and top end was almost dead even. I remember one time we went for a couple of miles pinned in high gear and we couldnt pass each other. So how ever fast a stock 400EX is on topend thats what my 350X would do. All was stock on both the 350X and the 400EXs. When I bought mine new in 86 I remember the salesman talking about it having 27hp per Honda.
The 350X is truly a great machine...Honda was way ahead of thier time with this machine it still amazes me when you look at to see how close it resembles the 450R. To top it all off this was a time when 2 stroke ruled everything. Trail riding the 350X is always on your back door even with the 450R not as fast but hard to leave behind with a good rider.
Check this badd ass out!
How much can I get one for ?!
QUOTE(700rider @ Jan 4 2009, 10:44 AM)
How much can I get one for ?!
you can't get that one,But, you can get one like This.
Lol I love when 250r nuts work pops up on other places... It's beautiful. But with a 15k build price... A bit high for most.
BlackSheep has the wave of the future...
I have been meaning to ask you if you know how much that front end weighs?
BlackSheep has the wave of the future...
I have been meaning to ask you if you know how much that front end weighs?
QUOTE(The Goat @ Jan 6 2009, 11:16 AM)
Lol I love when 250r nuts work pops up on other places... It's beautiful. But with a 15k build price... A bit high for most.
BlackSheep has the wave of the future...
I have been meaning to ask you if you know how much that front end weighs?
BlackSheep has the wave of the future...
I have been meaning to ask you if you know how much that front end weighs?
lol, if you think 15k is high, I stopped adding up after 16k on my "Black Sheep" edition TPC 450R. I'd guess around 17-18k.
I have not weighed it separately. I do know I had to put a longer swingarm on the keep the front end down. it's tore down now getting cleaned and prepped for the Jan 10th indoor race. maybe 'll weigh it
QUOTE(Black Sheep @ Jan 6 2009, 06:01 PM)
QUOTE(The Goat @ Jan 6 2009, 11:16 AM)
Lol I love when 250r nuts work pops up on other places... It's beautiful. But with a 15k build price... A bit high for most.
BlackSheep has the wave of the future...
I have been meaning to ask you if you know how much that front end weighs?
BlackSheep has the wave of the future...
I have been meaning to ask you if you know how much that front end weighs?
lol, if you think 15k is high, I stopped adding up after 16k on my "Black Sheep" edition TPC 450R. I'd guess around 17-18k.
I have not weighed it separately. I do know I had to put a longer swingarm on the keep the front end down. it's tore down now getting cleaned and prepped for the Jan 10th indoor race. maybe 'll weigh it
I was guestimating on that 15k. lol. he said it's the same as a ducati.
of course his is road legal being that he's across the pond.
Hell I said it's high, but now that I think about it, with the price tags these guys are seeing buying new bikes...that's not that bad.
I'm only 3-4k into my X....I'm just thinking about that that 1000$ front end would be the icing on the cake.
If you could give it a weigh, I'd really appreciate it....I don't think it will be tooo much heavier than my stock pieces, just a whole lot stiffer.
There's really not alot of difference in power or speed between the 350x and 400ex. Even the motors are identical. My stock 400ex would beat my 350x in a drag race, but after i went to a 14 tooth front sproket on my 400 the 350 will outrun the 400 now. Here's a pic of mine.
COOL 350X 
Love the DG
Love the DG
QUOTE(DB450R @ Mar 31 2009, 05:38 PM)
COOL 350X Love the DG
Love the DGGot this one for sale if anybody's interested. 1000.00
QUOTE(jadleybray @ Apr 1 2009, 02:23 AM)
QUOTE(DB450R @ Mar 31 2009, 05:38 PM)
COOL 350X Love the DG
Love the DGGot this one for sale if anybody's interested. 1000.00
i used to race a 250x with a 350x motor in it, it was the first thing i ever raced mx. the motor was built by TC racing, it would out run most 400s around here. it was a fast bike, and eventually lost the oil pump and took out the entire top end (cam, rockers, and head) i stripped it down and sold most of the aftermarket parts and built a 250R.
i still have the most of the motor and some of the rolling chassis. i might put it back together someday, after i get my 450 together again. it will be fun to have that back the way it was when i used to race it. kind of a trip back in the past, i miss that bike.
my fav one i ever owned, it was all hand built by me and my dad. we started with a frame and went from there.... ahhh, the memories!
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