Was at the dealer today and seen the new 700xx for the first time and wonder if any of you have got one yet and how do you like it????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCkHOgyx6ts&feature=user

I love to try one out, but IMO the thing is fugly!

I agree, when I first saw it I thought it was fugly too. But the looks have grown on me. And when ya get right down to it, I, and I'm sure most of us, buy our machines based on power and handling. I have a Honda Rincon, and can say say that the IRS on that machine works AWESOME. I can imagine that honda put the same amount of thought and engineering into the 700xx, and it will be/is at the top of its class (whatever that class may be????). I relate the 700xx to my '04 Chevy 2500HD. I bought the truck for its engine/drivetrain. After having it for a few years I LOVE the engine/drivetrain (Duramax, Allison, AAM axles) and have begun to like the looks and styling of it also, even though I hated it when I bought it. Just my poinion. . . . . . . I would love to own one. . . . . . .

dude that thing seriously looked really fun to ride and super comfy looking

ive been checking the dealer alot latly still no 700xx! waiting patiently, i really like it. it looks like its gonna be a great compeditor for the yami700raptor. cant wait to take a spin on one. irs sportbike has gotta be a smooth ride!

I have a funny feeling that is going to be my next Desert racer. In long desert races, that thing looks like it would kick arse. Winning in the desert is a combo fo two things, fatigue and bike reliability. That independent rear suspension would definately combat Fatigue. I am just waiting to see if Honda continues its track record of being extremely reliable.

In the review, they say its somewhere around 600 pounds, which is heavy, but I bet there is some places where weight can be shaved.

There is no place for that thing in woods or MX racing though.

its not 600 pounts, its only 508 pounds wet, thats full tank of gas, all oils and coolant , ready to ride

so with a full tank of gas alone 508 pounds is actually pretty light

im going to say it probably doesnt weigh more than 100 pounds more than my 450r

it would make a great desert bike, but i also think it would make a AWESOME trail bike but no it would make for a LOWESY mx bike just due to the rear irs

i wounder how this thing slides?

i belive it has a swaybar for the rear so i would guess it'll slide pretty good, nothin like a solid axle but~~
i also bet it'll be a damn good trail bike!

Seen one at Hayden's Honda the other day. Sounds badass and looked to run pretty dam fast!

The one I seen was a black on dark grey and I thought it looked pretty nice.

im gettin excitedd...

The specs are very similar to the 450r and I would love to get one in red but will have to wait I think the reviews are going to to be good the only thing I don't like about my r is rear ground clearance which the XX has plenty of.

I bet after a few hours of the rear independent suspension in the endless woop sections in the desert, you wouldnt be half as tired as you would riding a solid rear axle quad. Just imagine how nice your rear end would be if it worked like your front end.

I just wonder how strong the rear axles are going to be. I hope they make em strong enough to take some abuse.

listen to what you jus said! its a honda. nuff said

They have already broken in racde conditions. Nuff said. Thing seems to be a POS after speaking with some people who recently tested one.

I looked at one at the local dealer and thought it looked pretty good. The only bad review I have heard was from Quad magazine, I did not read it, just have heard about it on the internet.

I have read a few reviews on forums from people who have actually bought one, all have been positive so far. I know Wayne Matlock has raced a couple of D38 races on his. First was a dnf due to flats. (hard to find good tire in a 11" wheel size) and he was the first quad overall at thje other race. I will see him in a couple of weeks at Parker and plan on picking his brain.

One of the dedicated forums for it is trx700xx.net. (Seems to be down at the momonet though.) Person on there said he dynoed one, 46 hp stock, just slicks. He said a stock 2006 TRX450R puts down between 36 and 37 on the same dyno. (Goes to 40, 41 with a HRC kit.) Said it seems a little corked up stock. No graphs were provided, so take it for what it is worth. Looks like the motor may have some potential. Of course, it is still in a 500 lb chassis.

Doug

i read dirt wheels review on it today, no ride report on it yet.
about the weight they compred the raptor700 wet to the trx700
500 seems like a lot but the raptor weighed in at 450. only a 50 lb differance
to me that dosent seem to bad.
and supprisingly they had alot of good things to say concidering how they usually have nothing good to say about honda.

im sure next month will be a big bore shootout coming up, that'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

our dealer has one and it is UGLY as sin. i would not buy it just on the premise that it looks so bad.

the big gaping hole in the front end is possibly worse than the big blank spot on the front fairing of the new CBR1000RR's...

rear end looks even heavier in person and looks like it would be a bastard to work on.

just my opinion though haha

HEY I THINK THE NEW 1000RR's are EFFIN BAD

they are pretty sweet no doubt about that, but they have a big blank flat spot above and between the headlights... looks like a huge forehead lol

The one i saw, below the headlight it looked like the front of the raptor.

So it ran well, REALLY well.

I was asked to drag race a piped, and filtered 660r and beat him with NO problems. Mine is obviously still stock. I never even got all the way out of 4th. It was scary fast, but very stable at those high speeds. Not bad for mine being COMPLETLY stock.

I took it later on some technical hill climbs and descents with big rocks and loose stuff. The gearing seemed a little too high and I had to ride the clutch to keep it from killing. It was still very torquey and pulled the wheels in any gear.




It also did very well in the off-camber turns and was very forgiving when I did second gear wide sweeping donuts. I didn't think I would like the IRS, but I'm a new convert. It soaked up bumps that would have thrown me off into the scenery on my 400EX with ease.

1st gear is low, but like I said before, not low enough for technical stuff. It's great for drag racing though. 2nd gear rocks your socks. I never bottomed out or high centered ONCE.

(No, the fenders aren't touching the "wall".)







I also took it through some mudd that was about 6" deep at WOT and went through quickly. The mudd roost was epic.

I can't wait to uncork this with a slip on and a filter. Paddle tires for the dunes would be nice too.

Black plastics scuff easy, ESPECIALLY above the foot pegs.


Here are some more pictures before I went riding:

Loading up at the dealer:



At the house:

Scuzz,

does the rear end provide posi traction to both wheels? Locked in? or does it slip to one wheel?
thanks for the review, btw

The two half-shafts connect directly to the sprocket/hub and there is no differential. That would make it heavier and also make it totally suck in the mud.

cool its hard to tell from the pics, but thats a big plus in my book, as far as all out performance and less drag and less loss...

Lookin Good! Can't wait to ride one! Not sure when they are coming here yet

I seen one at the dealer and felt Honda was hungover when the tried to upstage the Raptor. Im a HUGE Honda fan but id have to giv ethe nod to the Raptor in this class...... Honda tried to get too fancy and it turned out ugly.

I still think the front end looks like something the joker would drive, but I totally agree with what the king is saying it just seems like Honda (along with the others) is just too scared to go head to head with the big bore open class that yamaha has uncontested. It really seems like they were trying to cover more than one base with the 700xx, IMO it's either a really bad or really brilliant business plan (I think its awful but only sales will tell). They seem to be doing the same thing Polaris did originally with the outlaw. Everyone wanted a bigbore straight axle quad to go at the Raptor and got an IRS with the same motor , now the have finally come around and offered a SRA version 2 years later but still havent given us a true open class racer.

I want one......bad.

They could possibly offer a straight axle version later...I believe that would be a little bit more appealing

im jealous... truly glad to hear the good review! cant wait to try one out myself

I think the front would look alot better if you removed the outer front fender plastics and the grill. Saw one this weekend at the dealer the rest of the bike is pretty slick looking.

The can on it is huge i could probaly fit my arm down it with the spark arrester out.

i wouldn't mind having one might get one some day.

Still makes me thing of Super Shredder from TMNTII when i see the front.

Yes I know they MX Rhinos for fun, but IMO there is just no place in MX racing for heavy 700+cc quads, 450's have it covered

But there is a place in XC / Baja!!!

I agree, plus sailing 500 lbs in close proximity to other humans is a recipe for disaster.

I think a class running on a CORR track would be awsome. Especially with some really high output machines.

Hey Jeff I have a cooler and 11 horse honda motor and m in search of a wagon and sprokets what da think. week end project?

Hmm, 1st and 3rd in the Baja 500 do anything for ya? (trx450 took 2nd )

I've read probably 5 different reviews including first hand new owner reports. Most people seem pretty happy with them and see a lot of potential. I till can't get over the weigh-in but I guess it will have to be a seat dyno that brings on a verdict for me.

I agree with King........too bad Honda does not have any kahonees, mark my words.........there will be a HUGE market for HIGH performance big bore machines........KTM, Aprilia, Can-Am, are all over it, Yamaha has the Raptor which they have sold a gazillion.

I can't wait for the 1st manufacture to produce a twin cylinder sport machine. How about a V twin, with CRF 250R cylinders and heads, aluminum frame, fuel injection, and weighs 350lbs! Honda couldn't make enough of them!

This 700xx machine will be a toad in the sales show room, especially after they get spanked by every Raptor out there, then the magazines will chop the 700xx into pieces.

I hate lawyers.....

Bulldog

You mean like the KFX700?


The after market will get in line for the TRX700 too, you'll see. Look how they jumped on the Vforce...

lol
and that did well
I bet u could lose tons of wieght, just in those plastics and exhaust.
I've said it before, I'm not a fan of cut plastics, but I could make an exception for the 700xx.
this thing appeals to me more than the raptor, cause I already have my 450r. If I didn't have anything, then hmmm I don't know which way I'd go.
But on the other hand, if I were to buy anything, I'd prolly get a 4x4, which complicated my opinion lol.

No doubt........Sorry if I am coming off a little harsh, I just think Honda could have been competetive in the high performance market with this new big bore entry. I am sure it is a fine machine, I would love to have one for trail riding, but for a versatile high performance sport machine, the Raptor, KTM, and Polaris, will defintely have an edge. Oh yea, and the Kawolski too!
JMO
BUlldog

I think the 700xx is just an example of overeducated corporate know-it-alls that have never spent 1 minute enjoying what they design. They over thought everything on this quad accept the engine. They would have sold a gazzillion of these if they would have just asked the public what they wanted and built a light weight, solid axle machine. But no, they go and build a friggin' tank with IRS that appeals to only a select few. It'll probably be an OK trail and desert machine, but forget it if you're looking for a duner, and the dune crowd is a large crowd. They dropped a HUGE ball on this quad IMO.

I agree and dis agree. (no, not because I own one)

The majority of the ATV riders don't even live near dunes. I'm in Dallas and the nearest ones are more than 5 hours away, and forget about it anywhere on the East Coast or in the South East.

I agree with you on them not getting what the people wanted, they should have totally made it a solid rear axle. This would have shaved the weight off and made it more competitive with the Raptor, which it only loses by a little in the drags. (there's a 75 pound "wet" weight difference in the two machines) But with that said the TRX700 has the highest stock output (at the crank) of any big bore sport quad.

I wish they offered teh solid rear axle and IRS models like the junk-pile polaris 525's do.

I agree with that. My point was that if they'd done their homework and build it as a solid axle, then it would have appealed to the trail/woods guys and the dune crowd. There is zero doubt in my mind that they would have sold a lot more of these if they would have stayed with the solid axle. It really isn't even a sport quad IMO. It's more of a hybrid, half utility, half sport. I just don't understand what honda was thinking and never will. But, this is ALL just my opinion.

Actually I read somewhere that that's exactly what they were thinking. They were appealing to the crowd that's buying big bore utes and pushing the limits, riding them like a sport. Seems like a terribly niche market to me - but that's what I read.

I say it's too bad they didn't make them 4x4 to compete with the renegade.... If they wanted to go after the hard riding utes owners, then it would have been much more appealing.

They would sell more IMO.

I still want one. An idea poped in the back of my head a little while ago about some wider lower suspension and road tires. Can we say 4wheeled crotch rocket.

If it were me making this thing 4x4 i'd try to keep the foot print as much the same as possible and cram in a vtx line motor.

Great idea! Slap on a front wheel drive assembly. You would have a realtively light weight 4x4 with good suspension, good motor. I like it.

Bulldog

3 models

TRX700xx standard
TRX700xxS/A solid axle
TRX700x4 4x4 edition

2010's, you watch pfff lol

we can only pray

i like how they have a-arms in the back, other wise it would be raptor but better... after looking at the pics, i belive batch posted, of the 700xx with elka longtravels all the way around with roll arms... WOW it looked insane and i bet its extremely comfy ====> pic thread http://www.trx450r.org/forum/index.php?sho...14&hl=700xx