With the gearing of the 450 first gear is a great gear to pull the front wheels up with no effort but it revs out 2 quick, but second gear is the money gear to ride on 2 wheels all day long. Every time i try to shift from 1st to 2nd gear on a wheelie i cant keep the front wheel up. I am shifting as fast as i can and i am at the balance point. I know some of you fools can ride on 2 and shift all day long so what am i not doing

Do you use the clutch? If you are thats the reason... I know some people on street bikes can use clutch shifts in wheelies but just power shift it until you get good.

I was using the clutch and just quick shifting as fast as i could but the front end just falls. I will try it with out the clutch

If anyone else has any tips for ridein 2 wheels and rollin endos etc. Post them here. I love the dirt but it is always fun to hit some asphalt every once in a while :wacko:

another lilttle trick to do, is drivng on the side two wheels, theres a fun one, i can drive in a staright line down the road so far ive done it from 1st to 4th, but i stoped doing it once i got aftermarket tires, its a lil hard on tires, but the one day my friend was telling this guy i rode quad cuz i had no sense of ballance, cuz they rode dirt bikes, boy did i show them wrong.

Ride on 2 wheels at a slow speed then pop a wheelie, it looks pretty badass wheelieing on 1 wheel.

Yea ive done that too!

The reason i bought my R over the yfz is because they said it was better at wheeling. the trick is to not use the clutch and to give it and extra shot of gaz right before shifting. i start from first and shift all the way to 5th with no problem.

This is what I do. I pop my front end up in second gear. When I'm ready to shift, I bring my front end up a little higher than normal then without the clutch I let up on the gas then shift . This gives me time to shift before the front end starts to come back down. That way I can get on the gas before the weight of the front pulls it down. Once you get that down, then practice doing it into fourth then fifth. Good luck! B)

Another fun trick is to start doing doughnuts and as your doing them pull up the front and spin around with the front up and come out as a catwalk.

When you're done riding the wheelie. Go straight to a nice stoppie. That looks really cool, and will show any 2 wheeler how your balance is.

Yup and you can give the two wheeler the bird(The American high sign)to let him know that the quad generation is here to stay! :lol:

This is all good info. I need to be more careful, today i went to roll out and endo and was about 2 inches from putting my Arai into the assphalt. Thank god for the front bumper. The brakes are amazing! Also when rolling on the 2 front wheels turn the wheel as you feel you are losing momentum and you can get the quad to 180. Looks really sweet.

I was out riding yesterday and i went to do a endo...and i went right over frontwards..haha. it landed on me and then i just pushed it over and got back on it...first kick and i was ready to go agian.
about turning your wheels..would that not put a lot of pressure on the tie rods. the whole weight of the quad trying to turn the wheels more then the tie rods will allow.

I have not bent the front tie rods at all, YET! Here in the baltimore area we had THe Big Events bike stunt show at M and T bank stadium (Ravens) last sunday. There were a handfull of quads that were pullin some really sick variations. The everyone was on 400 EX's with the exception of a 450r, one kid was rideing a wheelie in reverse then jumped onto the rear edge of the seat, spun around faceing forward then jumped onto the seat. I have some of the pics on my camera phone i need to figure out how to send them to my laptop. Anyway sure enough as soon as i got home i busted the 450 and tryed the reverse wheelie . I let off the clutch way to hard and mangaled the rear grab rail. I hate aluminum -_-
Anyone try this revers wheelie yet?

Anyone haveing a problem with the stock alumimum grab rail. Mine is all kinds of bent up. My old 400ex has a steel bar that has never bent. So i guess my question is who make a replacement grab rail that is going to be able to take some abuse? Everything that i have been seeing is aluminum <_<

if u got a steel bender, welder and etc, im sure u could make yourself a dam nice steel grab bar, just be careful, cuz with a strong grab bar, ull be more entiltled to wrecking your subframe.

Yah thats what i been debating on doing also......how hard was it to make...what did u make it out of?

i havnt made one, but 1 inch square or round stell tubing would do goos, or wat thickness u feel like using, then the first thing i would do is remove the stock grab bar, line up a similar bar mounts tack them in place, see if they will line up, and then build the rest of the bar they way ud like it from there, and since its steel, prime it up and paint it.

PRM makes a strong rear bar! :D

http://www.prm-atv.com/

YA IF U CAN FIND A GRAB BAR THAT CAN TAKE A GOOD BEATING THAN U COULD TRY A TRICK CALLED SCRATCH AND GO. YOU PULL A WHEELIE AND DROP IT ON THE GRAB BAR AND PULL IT OFF THE GRAB BAR AND KEEP THE WHEELS IN THE AIR


(LOOKS COOL AT NIGHT ON PAVEMENT SPARKS FLY)

I JUST DO IT ON MY 250EX CUZ ITS STEEL BUT ITS PRETTY GRINDED DOWN THOUGHT <_<

If you get a stronger grab bar u risk breaking your subframe.

Yup very god. i coudent have said it better. that is excatly what i do

it's nice to see some good ol' Canadian boys postin' on here!!! i'm from Alberta, myself, and i hear that there is some beautiful ridin' out towards the east!

yo mitco... where exactly is Wandering River??????? i'm from Canmore...

ok, i can do jus about every wheelie i've ever seen, except for goin from the side 2 wheels, to the back 2. i'm still workin on riding on the side. my main issue is with stoppies, or endos. i can only do them in the sand, with my feet on the bars. if i'm not in sand my front end jus locks up and slides, and if my feet aren't on the bars, the back end shows no signs of liftin up. ne suggestions?

sit as close to the gas tank as possible, and as you grab the front brake, push down on the bars like youre trying to shove the grips in the ground... also try it on pavement to prevent the front wheels from sliding...

Wandering River is 2 hrs north of Edmonton on Hwy 63. If u ever been to fort mac you would have to have passed through wandering river. It like dead center between the two cities.

I Broke my stock grab bar on a wheelie that went to far. I bought a "D"am "G"ood fat series. It seems to be strong. I have'nt flipped on to it yet, but i let my buddy try my quad and he wheelied on to the grab bar hard and kept going for 50 ft or so. I thought it was a gonner for sure. It dugg a trough about 3 inches deep for those 50 feet. My 450 was packed dirt all up on the brake lite and the rear plastic. After a got the dirt cleared away i was suprised that it wasnt bent one bit.
I can do some pretty mean wheelie, but i havent try to turn while wheelie. So i can go only as long as i dont have to turn.

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as for shifting in a wheelie you just have to be in the balance point. to get a good feel for it get your self in a 3rd gear wheelie (shift with out the clutch if you cant shift with it). while you have you front up riding a nice wheelie, pull in the clutch, if your balanced you should be able to coast it to a dead stop even better kill the motor and coast it out. once you get the feel for it then you can tell where the quad needs to be while in a wheelie so you can shift with the clucth and not drop the front end. its just prac.

i like starting a wheelie from a dead stop and going through all the gears, another good way to find the balance point is to stand on the rear grab bar while first learing so you can't get use to the throttle control and balance point

why don't you just pull up in 2nd or 3rd I'm only 14 and weigh like 140 and i can do it easy

I havent tried them but one time on pavement but I was riding some nice highchair wheelies at little saraha.. The only thing is I cant shift and I couldnt get it up in 2nd so I was jsut riding them in first.. I thought it was pretty cool and me and this guy kinda had a little wheelie contest I was doing good we rode them about the same distance but he was riding one handed and dragging the sand with his hand, I tired but my bike sat up to high I couldnt get it there. (his bike was slammed)

when doing stoppies soften your shocks up. it helps quite abit. wheelieing from a bicycle is one way to impress the women. but where i ride people will just stare at me while im bicycling. high chairs wheelies look pretty pimp to. to me high chair endos made it harder to learn sit down stoppies, but everyone is different :ph34r: .

You should have no prob. pulling up the front wheels in second. Slide your butt all the way back on the seat. Gas it and pull straight back toward your chest. Just try to find the balance point on a quad it is quite high. You will feel like it is going to come back on you, just keep your foot covering the rear brake and give it light touches.

If that still does not work for you put your left foot in the rear grab rail and your right covering the brake. start with your knee on the back edge of the seat. As you gas it up take your knee off the seat and extend your leg straght and put all of your body weight on the rear grab bar.
Dont worry if the quad rubs the rear bar just pull in your cluch and push it forward again.
Once you find the balance point that transfers to wheelieing just about anything. It is all in rear brake control.
Before rideing any wheelies make sure your rear tire presure is equal if not the quad will pull to one side.

Wear a helmet and be safe. :D

Mine wheelies in 2nd and 3rd when I'm sitting on the gas tank, not wanting it to wheelie! Too much power I guess....

Also, it was said before that it is cool to go from a wheelie straight into a stoppie... Just uh, make sure that you ONLY try that in 1st, 2nd, or maybe 3rd gear. A 4th gear wheelie to stoppie MIGHT get ya some reconstructive surgery in the facial regions.

Well when u want to wheelie i believe that the best way to do a wheelie is to preload the front and then gas and pull weight back till at balance point, the rest u have to learn on ur own seat time cuz i can pull up the front with that method in 3rd and forth on sand,pavement, and loose gravel. but every one has a method that best suits your riding style

one thing i heard of but haven't had the chance to try is supposed to help get the front end in the air in the higher gears. you get the bike at the rpms where it has the most power (in 4th or 5th gear) and then keeping on the gas u pull in the clutch and then let it back out but you have to do it really fast. it should let the motor rev up and then accelerate more, and combined with pulling on the bars and having your weight back it should bring the front end up. next time i go riding i'll try this. the guy that told me about it rides a 500cc 2-stroke dirtbike tho, so he has a huge power advantage over the 450r.

When i had a 13t in front i had no prob gettin it up in 5th, all i woulddo is put left foot in grab bar, gas and pull and im riding at wheelie in 5th, now with my 15-36 gearing i can get it up till 3rd, maybe 4th , ill have to try 5th one time. However i can go from dead stop to wide open 5th doing a wheelie non stop, well could been a while since ive ridden man i need to get back.


Ryan

that's one thing i cannot figure out: shifting while wheeling. i can get the shift, but i can't keep the front end up.

If your using the clutch, thats the prob you need to power shift while doing wheelies.


Ryan

Correct, don't use the clutch! Its actualy dangerous using the clutch. I am now in control of the balance point of my r, i start in 1th and move to 5th and keep it there for as long as i want. Another trick if you want to shift while wheelie is to put your foot under the shifter before lifting the front end, then when you get more experienced, you can put your foot under the shifter while wheeling. Hope this helps.

...UFO

Anpther tip, once you get enough speed, going, the wind can work to your advatange, you can sail left to right by turning the tires if the wind is there, works great.


Ryan

what do you guys mean by power shift? I hate to sound like an idiot but I am new to this quad stuff !!

Power shiftin is when you shift without using the clutch, you just gotta rev it right and shift smooth, dont try it on a wheelie for the first time practice it riding flat firs then one you master that, as well as a wheelie in first you can learn from there.


Ryan

isnt that gonna hurt the tranny?

Not if you are at the right RPM. Do a search on power shifting ... there have been a couple threads

its funny watchin people go over front wards lol

if i were u trxjunky i would just go to a metal shop and ask them to build u a cotum 1.... they can make is stronger that an aftermarket and alot cheaper!!!


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