 '06 TRX450er vs. '07 Raptor 700r, stock vs. stock. |
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 Jul 20 2006, 02:55 AM
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http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...d=954404122&n=2
They're pretty damn quick, but I rape it in the turn as well as the air. on pavement i'll eat it alive in the first 3 gears, after that i'm done for. on dirt it's just a matter of who launches better. pretty even though. |
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Jul 20 2006, 03:06 AM
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Speed kills... Ride a 2 stroke.  Group: Supporting Member Posts: 1622 Joined: 20-December 05 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3317 |
I raced a raptor 700 on pavement from a dead stop on my 06 HRC 450er and pulled about 10 quad lengths on him before I let off. Im sure the driver has a huge affect on how each machine performs. IMO, raptors are junk. Just horribly designed and not worth their price.
Good Vid tho This post has been edited by Pgreenlaw: Jul 20 2006, 03:18 AM -------------------- 2006 TRX
Modded/Shortened ESR intake 42mm Sredrum Taper Bored FCR with Venom Rat Stack Venom ported head with port matched intake KW +1mm valves (x4) KW Dual Valve spring kit Stage III Hotcam Venom 100mm 14.25:1 piston Cometic 2-layer head gasket Athena 100mm Cylinder Hinson Clutch basket Tusk HD clutch w/o Judder Spring CR500 Springs ESR Pro Exhaust w/ wrapped header MotoXperts Tranny mod TrailTech X bars with Clamp ASV F3 Pro "shorty" levers Xenon HID's CRF-X tail light Stock suspension, stock swinger :( Cheap, Fast, Reliable. You can only choose 2. Which do you choose? |
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Jul 20 2006, 10:24 AM
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I am... Group: Members Posts: 1106 Joined: 22-September 05 From: CANADIAN Member No.: 2675 |
they can pull huge torque #'s when set up correctly. they are good for short steep hills.
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Jul 20 2006, 12:06 PM
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250EX Rider Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 25-February 06 From: SO. CAL Member No.: 3872 |
I would say do not under estimate a Raptor, and I am not saying to love them. It just has to have a rider that knows his machine and you can have a great match. Now it also depends on the kind of riding you are talking about.
QUOTE they can pull huge torque #'s when set up correctly. they are good for short steep hills. Very true. Also heard that with these you must shift gears a bit quicker and they will rip. |
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Jul 20 2006, 12:17 PM
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300EX Rider Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 11-February 06 From: Sacramento California Member No.: 3762 |
sick vid and ya it all depends on the rider
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Jan 2 2008, 11:35 PM
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TRX90 Rider Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 2-January 08 Member No.: 9048 |
[quote name='Pgreenlaw' date='Jul 20 2006, 03:06 AM' post='262653']
I raced a raptor 700 on pavement from a dead stop on my 06 HRC 450er and pulled about 10 quad lengths on him before I let off. Im sure the driver has a huge affect on how each machine performs. IMO, raptors are junk. Just horribly designed and not worth their price. Good Vid tho Was the raptor 700 a power wheels never seen any honda beat a raptor by 10 bikes in any condition |
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Jan 2 2008, 11:43 PM
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Ska-DOOOOSH Group: Members Posts: 4275 Joined: 17-June 07 Member No.: 7728 |
raptors can be fast just like everything else can setup is key I've beet a few and I've go stomped by a few also
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Jan 3 2008, 01:21 PM
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250EX Rider Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 27-November 06 From: AZ Member No.: 5834 |
My buddy put a pipe and a chip on his and it was like a totally different bike. Out of the crate I wasn't real Impressed with his Raptor but with a couple of mods it ran pretty good. I"ll still take my honda over a Raptor any day of the week.
-------------------- 04 kicker, DASA exhaust, DFR CNC Race Porting, 13:1 piston, Keihin 40mm FCR carb, Web Cam Race Cam, 208/921 grind,Dasa intake, K&N Air filter, +2 phantom A Arms iShock F8 dual rate shocks, Lonestar Racing +2 swingarm, RPM Dominator II axle, AC blackline Bumber, Blackline propeg nerfs, AC Six pack Rack, AC Skids, DFR seat cover.
used to have a 06 LTR450 Black Laker plastics, Cherry bomb GEORGE |
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Jan 3 2008, 03:41 PM
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Stock Bore/Stroke/Carb Group: Members Posts: 2778 Joined: 10-June 06 From: Shepherdstown, WV Member No.: 4618 |
Holy 1.5 year old post Batman.
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Jan 3 2008, 04:18 PM
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250EX Rider Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 1-January 08 Member No.: 9035 |
haha.. looks like the honda started first from the video.. i watched it about 8 times but the vid sucks... cant really tell a whole lot.
I have raced every quad out there other than a ds650 and by no means has a HRC honda pulled 10 lengths on me when i was stock and stock tires also. I raced a guy at rocky creek atv here in Georgia with the HRC kit and he beat me but was pissed because it was only about 1-2 bike lengths. He had razr2s and all. Keep in mind i ride in Georgia hard clay/dirt and race in 300 - 330 ft. Stock for stock the raptor will win 8 out of 10 times with equal drivers and weight. I ride at durhamtown plantation alot and there are plenty of trxs there that have stuff done to them and i couldnt beat them when i had just a pcIII.. they wasnt beating my by hardly anything and i had the stock slick tires on there. I guess the only real way to tell what is faster without ppl coming up with different excuses is for one person to make about 50 passes on a honda and get an average and the fastest time......... then for someone to get on the raptor and make about 50 passes and get an average and a fastest time. I have a friend with a 05 trx and he dont feel comfortable betting 50 a race. So i guess if you arent that confident in a stock machine then something is fishy.. I would do it all day long. stock for stock. may not get rich off of it but ill come out ahead in 300ft drag. -------------------- 06 Yamaha Raptor 700
Custom paint job 11:1 Je piston Hot cam stg 2 Monster dual exhaust PC III Pro-design intake 15t sprocket YFZ shocks A-arm skids and probably some other stuff im leaving out. |
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Jan 3 2008, 04:19 PM
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250EX Rider Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 1-January 08 Member No.: 9035 |
wow.. this is an old post
-------------------- 06 Yamaha Raptor 700
Custom paint job 11:1 Je piston Hot cam stg 2 Monster dual exhaust PC III Pro-design intake 15t sprocket YFZ shocks A-arm skids and probably some other stuff im leaving out. |
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Jan 3 2008, 05:33 PM
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250EX Rider Group: Members Posts: 348 Joined: 26-December 07 Member No.: 8995 |
QUOTE(Pgreenlaw @ Jul 20 2006, 03:06 AM)  I raced a raptor 700 on pavement from a dead stop on my 06 HRC 450er and pulled about 10 quad lengths on him before I let off. Im sure the driver has a huge affect on how each machine performs. IMO, raptors are junk. Just horribly designed and not worth their price. Good Vid tho Must be something messed up with the Raptor then. My wife has a Raptor and I don't have a problem pulling trx450's at all. But once some internal work has been done they will pull me on the hill, not by much, but they still pull. |
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Jan 3 2008, 08:56 PM
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480R Rider Group: Members Posts: 3642 Joined: 14-May 07 From: Peoria, AZ Member No.: 7487 |
Some people just shouldn't be allowed to hold a video camera.
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Jan 3 2008, 10:08 PM
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TRX90 Rider Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 7-December 07 Member No.: 8861 |
ive owned a couple of them up the hill in the dunes, but thats only when i
get the hole shot and get through the woops first, if i dont they beat me |
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Jan 4 2008, 04:00 PM
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Speed kills... Ride a 2 stroke. Group: Supporting Member Posts: 1622 Joined: 20-December 05 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3317 |
QUOTE(fast 700 @ Jan 2 2008, 10:35 PM) QUOTE(Pgreenlaw @ Jul 20 2006, 03:06 AM) I raced a raptor 700 on pavement from a dead stop on my 06 HRC 450er and pulled about 10 quad lengths on him before I let off. Im sure the driver has a huge affect on how each machine performs. IMO, raptors are junk. Just horribly designed and not worth their price. Good Vid tho Was the raptor 700 a power wheels never seen any honda beat a raptor by 10 bikes in any condition Yea dude read the whole comment before making stupid ass comments. "I'm sure the driver has a huge affect on how each machine performs." That would lead me to believe that the raptor driver wasn't worth a sh!t. -------------------- 2006 TRX
Modded/Shortened ESR intake 42mm Sredrum Taper Bored FCR with Venom Rat Stack Venom ported head with port matched intake KW +1mm valves (x4) KW Dual Valve spring kit Stage III Hotcam Venom 100mm 14.25:1 piston Cometic 2-layer head gasket Athena 100mm Cylinder Hinson Clutch basket Tusk HD clutch w/o Judder Spring CR500 Springs ESR Pro Exhaust w/ wrapped header MotoXperts Tranny mod TrailTech X bars with Clamp ASV F3 Pro "shorty" levers Xenon HID's CRF-X tail light Stock suspension, stock swinger :( Cheap, Fast, Reliable. You can only choose 2. Which do you choose? |
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