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redkaz04 · 09-26-2009, 07:38 PM

hey guys I have JD plus 2 a arms. The only adjustments to make the alignment correct is the camber....(the big nut on the a arm) and the toe adjustment(tie rods) Correct? If I am correct I understand that the camber has to be properly adjusted first. So how should I set up the camber? Thanks...I need help

awymore997 · 09-26-2009, 08:58 PM

It depends on how you want the front end set up, If you want 0* of camber, get your bike on a level surface, and use a level. Adjust till the wheel is straight up and down.

rinehart_mitch · 09-26-2009, 09:13 PM

what kinda riding do you do? there is a difference from MX to trails etc.

hoser · 09-26-2009, 09:22 PM

There is usually never any instance where you would want 0 degrees of camber.

Someone that knows for sure will probably chime in, but IIRC you want 2-3 degrees for general riding, and 3-4 for motocross.

I have mine set at 3 degrees and I ride every type of terrain and it works well for me.

I use a magnetic angle finder or usually an electronic level to set camber and it works great.

redkaz04 · 09-26-2009, 10:57 PM

I ride MX and some sandy trails......in my garage I have basic tools...how do I set my camber up correctly bf I do the toe adjustment? Thanks guys

coop · 09-27-2009, 12:00 AM

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hey guys I have JD plus 2 a arms. The only adjustments to make the alignment correct is the camber....(the big nut on the a arm) and the toe adjustment(tie rods) orrect? If I am correct I understand that the camber has to be properly adjusted first. So how should I set up the camber? Thanks...I need help[/b]

Hope this helps you out. It helped me.

http://www.jet-motorsports.com/id5.html

redkaz04 · 09-27-2009, 01:58 PM

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hey guys I have JD plus 2 a arms. The only adjustments to make the alignment correct is the camber....(the big nut on the a arm) and the toe adjustment(tie rods) orrect? If I am correct I understand that the camber has to be properly adjusted first. So how should I set up the camber? Thanks...I need help[/b]

Hope this helps you out. It helped me.

http://www.jet-motorsports.com/id5.html
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So with a positive camber I would want 3 degrees meaning the top of the front tires onthe inside should be closer together than the inside of the bottom of the tires?

hoser · 09-27-2009, 02:13 PM

Yes.

awymore997 · 09-27-2009, 05:27 PM

No what you are describing is negative camber.

Morgan · 09-27-2009, 05:38 PM

You want Negative camber and Positive caster. The tire needs to be "in" at the top so when you throw the bike into the corner the top of the tire goes out and you keep the tire contact patch as vertical as possible.

redkaz04 · 09-27-2009, 06:23 PM

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You want Negative camber and Positive caster. The tire needs to be "in" at the top so when you throw the bike into the corner the top of the tire goes out and you keep the tire contact patch as vertical as possible.[/b]

Ok I think I got it. I dont believe there is a caster adjustment on the JD arms...is there?

redkaz04 · 09-27-2009, 06:24 PM

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No what you are describing is negative camber.[/b]

So I want negative camber for MX correct?

Morgan · 09-27-2009, 06:25 PM

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You want Negative camber and Positive caster. The tire needs to be "in" at the top so when you throw the bike into the corner the top of the tire goes out and you keep the tire contact patch as vertical as possible.[/b]

Ok I think I got it. I dont believe there is a caster adjustment on the JD arms...is there?
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If the upper arms have heims then they will be adjustable. Arms with solid mounts on the upper arm will not be.

hoser · 09-28-2009, 01:02 AM

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So with a positive camber I would want 3 degrees meaning the top of the front tires onthe inside should be closer together than the inside of the bottom of the tires?[/b]

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No what you are describing is negative camber.[/b]

Yes, technically it is negative camber, but how you are describing it is correct, and that is what matters.

But again, for future reference it is negative camber.

09-26-2009, 07:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
redkaz04 250EX Rider Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: GA! Posts: 498	hey guys I have JD plus 2 a arms. The only adjustments to make the alignment correct is the camber....(the big nut on the a arm) and the toe adjustment(tie rods) Correct? If I am correct I understand that the camber has to be properly adjusted first. So how should I set up the camber? Thanks...I need help __________________ <span style="color:#800080"><span style="font-family:Lucida Console">

09-26-2009, 09:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
hoser 300EX Rider Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Farmington, MN Posts: 899	There is usually never any instance where you would want 0 degrees of camber. Someone that knows for sure will probably chime in, but IIRC you want 2-3 degrees for general riding, and 3-4 for motocross. I have mine set at 3 degrees and I ride every type of terrain and it works well for me. I use a magnetic angle finder or usually an electronic level to set camber and it works great. __________________ 2005 450R Black everything and lots of parts 2005 450R Less black and less parts

09-26-2009, 10:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
redkaz04 250EX Rider Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: GA! Posts: 498	I ride MX and some sandy trails......in my garage I have basic tools...how do I set my camber up correctly bf I do the toe adjustment? Thanks guys __________________ <span style="color:#800080"><span style="font-family:Lucida Console">

09-27-2009, 02:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
hoser 300EX Rider Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Farmington, MN Posts: 899	Yes. __________________ 2005 450R Black everything and lots of parts 2005 450R Less black and less parts

09-27-2009, 05:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Morgan 450R Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,747	You want Negative camber and Positive caster. The tire needs to be "in" at the top so when you throw the bike into the corner the top of the tire goes out and you keep the tire contact patch as vertical as possible. __________________ One Slow Sleeper 408 Puma Cheap aint bad ass and bad ass aint cheap.

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09-26-2009, 08:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
awymore997 TRX90 Rider Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oregon City, OR/Charlotte, NC Posts: 17	It depends on how you want the front end set up, If you want 0* of camber, get your bike on a level surface, and use a level. Adjust till the wheel is straight up and down.

09-26-2009, 09:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
rinehart_mitch 250EX Rider Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 356	what kinda riding do you do? there is a difference from MX to trails etc.

09-27-2009, 05:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
awymore997 TRX90 Rider Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oregon City, OR/Charlotte, NC Posts: 17	No what you are describing is negative camber.