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Old 01-17-2008, 11:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm going to be putting on my new swingarm this weekend, and have a couple questions. I've heard from a few people that the hub nut is a pain in the arse to break free. Any tips on doing this? Will putting a torch on the nut to heat it up help any? I'm not too worried about the axle nut because I have a 3' pipe wrench with a 3' steel pipe that will slide over it for leverage. It's just the hub nut that I keep hearing about being tough to get off. I have a 3/4" drive air impact but I'm not sure if it'll do it. Any suggestions?
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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TIPS u want TIPS u no like my stinkin tips...







LOL just messing ..I think If u got a impact should work fine try some wd40 I used a 18" breaker bar with a 4 foot steel pole n got mine to brea lose but only after breaking a sock n wrench..one of my mistakes was trying to break that nut loose why it was on a stand (bucket)

im sure some1 has done a few and is more knowledgable then me

good luck..its a kick azz swingarm
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Man that sounds like a lot of work...

Don't waste your time... Just sell it to me....lol


Let me know how the install goes... swingarm is next on my list
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Man that sounds like a lot of work...

Don't waste your time... Just sell it to me....lol


Let me know how the install goes... swingarm is next on my list[/b]
No problem Jeff, $500 and you come get it. You know where I live. Heck I've sold you half a quad by now anyways....lol

By the way, did you ever get that "upgrade" we talked about?
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:19 AM   #5 (permalink)
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With the impact you should have no problems. I did the hubs on my 400ex by hand with a breaker bar. But heating it up would probably make it even eaiser.
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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My hub nuts came right off with a breaker bar. My buddies 450r wasn't as lucky. We got out the impact gun and it still wouldn't budge them. We just put the breaker bar back on it and stomped on it for a while. It worked pretty well after a few kicks. I know this sounds obvious, but make sure the quad is on the ground when doing it.

As for the axle lock nut... It is reverse threads if you didn't know already.
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Man that sounds like a lot of work...

Don't waste your time... Just sell it to me....lol


Let me know how the install goes... swingarm is next on my list[/b]
No problem Jeff, $500 and you come get it. You know where I live. Heck I've sold you half a quad by now anyways....lol

By the way, did you ever get that "upgrade" we talked about?
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Sounds good and I'll remember to pack a lunch this time before I drive out to pick it up...lol

I put the 480 kit in last weekend and just finished breakin it in... my neighbors love me now...lol

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Old 01-18-2008, 04:17 AM   #8 (permalink)
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remember to grease to swing arm bolt when going back in with it so it wont be so hard to get it out next time.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
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use anti seize on the pivot bolt......

I'm doing a rebuild and my pivot bolt came right out no problems at all.
I was kinda suprised.
should have my frame and stuff next week, can't wait.
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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the first time i took my swinger off was a FRIGGON PAIN IN MY ARSE to get the pivot bolt out

ONE THING BFH

i had to use a 10lb sledge to knock out my pivot bolt and that barely budged it

when you put it back in use alot of neer sieze like already mentioned



there is a topic on here somewhere about a modification about drilling small holes in the stock pivot bolt and putting a grease fiting on one side and pluggin up the other side, because the stock pivot bolt is hollow

i did this to mine after the first time, and i took mine out about a month ago and it just slide right out, now i just grease it whenever i grease my axle and a-arms
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the easiest and most efficient way is to buy the right size axle nut wrenches from rocky mountain, it has a space for a 3/4 breaker bar, and also you can torque the axle nuts back to spec. Also when taking off the hub nut, do it first, so you can hold on the rear brakes and loosen the nut at the same time. Thanks about it, be sure to install the swing arm bearings square, and have the seals correctly installed.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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bueller. for me i like when loosening the hubs and locknut i leave the tires on and the bike sitting on the ground. i'll have someone sit on the bike, leave it in gear and hold on to the breaks while i loosen the big nuts. after that i jack it up and start taking it apart. if you havent yet, get an aftermarket locknut, 30-50 bux and problem solved forever.

take off your rear caliper with brakeline attached and zip tie it out of the way.

the pivot bolt was a bit ch. while i hit it with the impact gun my brother hit it from the other end so we could try to spin it out. i regret not putting in a stainless bolt in when i put it back together, but i now have a new woodward bolt sitting here and i'll put it in next time i take it apart.

i just put in a swingarm like yours in a banshee right before the glamis trip. verry nice piece.
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Old 01-19-2008, 12:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm installing the swingarm tomorrow, but went out in the garage this evening to see if I could break the hub nuts loose. I now love and appreciate my big @ss impact. It broke those nuts loose almost instantly.
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Old 01-19-2008, 04:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey Steve you better post up some pics of that baby
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:15 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Well, it won't be done today. I got the stock swinger off very easy. The pivot bolt slid right out, almost by hand. The problem is that the bearings that came with the swingarm did not work but I didn't know that until they were already pressed in with the dust seals. The inner diameter of the bearings was too small to accept the steel pins that go through them. I called quad customs and he is fixing me up ASAP with new better bearings. The other bad part was while trying to get the bearings back out, I trashed the dust seals and now have to order those as well as one of the o-rings on the carrier that was broken when I pulled the carrier out. I guess it was wishful thinking to think that this whould go smoothly.
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