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Hey i have a lot of questions about big bore kits!! So how reliable r big bore kits?? 480/490 kits?? do u need to do anything to the head to run a 480 kit? Is a 480 kit more reliable than a high comp piston?? I don't want to run race gas just to ride!! how high can i go with a high comp piston before i have to run race gas?? Is a big bore (480) kit going to give me more power than a high comp piston?? Sorry so many questions thanks for any and all help!!! i really appreciate it thanks!!

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You can get a pretty reliable bb kit from what I have saw on here but I personally can not recommend a certain one to go with or tell you the power difference over a hi comp piston but I do know they tend to rev a little less and make a little more low end than a smaller bore. 12:5:1 is about the max your going to get on pump gas without issues.

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about what ^ he ^ said....

yes, as you increase CC's, your gonna rev a little slower than a smaller machine.....but only sitting in Neutral... you will find a big bore to have about +3 HP over a comparable 450 based machine...

no, you dont need to mod the head, but PORTING is always good.....and probably good for another 3-5hp on average....depending on other mods...

12.5:1 is safe....some claim 13:1...but your pushing the limits....

ESR has a 480 kit with 12.5:1 Wiseco piston...a reasonable price and quality....

if it were ME, I would opt for a Venom 12.25:1 big bore piston and send my jug off for bore/plate.... cost a LIL bit more...but you would have a better 'package' IMHO....

at 490 your gonna need an aftermarket cylinder...and the price jumps dramatically..... so keep that in mind...

also....I assume you already have the usual mods.... .Cam (#1), pipe, etc...???

HIGH comp 14:1 or more vs +3mm is gonna act about the same.... same power, same reliability or close to..... the difference is the cost of race gas vs pump fuel....


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Thats good to know that they dont slow down the revs while riding greg I dont have experience with a 450 big bore helped build a big bore long rod 430 banshee and big bore 440ex but they both had pretty heavy slugs in them so you could notice a little lslower increase in rpm pulling through the gears but like I say they were heavy heavy pistons and not short skirts like the 450s are

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Increasing the piston (bore) to stroke ratio should actually increase the revability...espescially with the 04/05s because of the combination of the bore/stroke ratio and using an aftermarket piston that will be lighter than the stock slug....even at a larger size.

As long as you stick with a comp ratio that will allow you to run pump gas(12-12.5:1 normally),why not do a big bore with a higher comp piston. ....there should not be any real decline in reliabilty and will give you nice gains across the board.



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what r the weakness of the 04/05 motors??? i heard that the stock crank is the weak point??? is this true?? is this a common weak point because if it is the big bore kit would just cause it to go out faster i would think!!?? i may be wrong but my friend said that, so i was wondering if he just talking out his a$$ or he was telling the truth.... thanks!

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