hc2 or stay with h3 - Honda TRX450R Forums: Honda TRX 450R Forum

BLK450 · 07-21-2008, 07:59 PM

well right now i'm still running my hc3 that i had with with my 480 kit, but because of my recent bearing failure force me to go back to stock bore just wondering if it would benefit me to run the hc2 with my new setup, and what would be the pro and cons of either, i have already notice a little loss of the bottom end grunt that had with my 480,

any input is much appreciated, to help me make up my mind.

BLK450 · 07-21-2008, 08:58 PM

never mind i just read one of the other post in your section, i think the stg2 will be the better choice for me, i guess that will be my next thing on my list.

sredish · 07-21-2008, 09:08 PM

i was going to say stay with the hc3... lol but...... i prefer a top end heavy powerband. I like the power to build not fall off.

BLK450 · 07-21-2008, 09:11 PM

when say fall off you mean before rev limit.

sredish · 07-21-2008, 09:18 PM

i mean i'd rather have peak power higher in the rpms and plenty of overrev rather than have the power fall off more after peak.

BLK450 · 07-21-2008, 09:29 PM

gotcha, i think i'm already missing the tq of the 480 so if i can run the stg2 i get some of that back it would just be that much better,i'm already loving the fast rev and how it loves the top end of the stock bore high comp.

sredish · 07-21-2008, 09:36 PM

sounds like the stg. 2 is for you then... it will add some torque back in and probably be a good stump puller that revs out pretty good still.

BLK450 · 07-21-2008, 09:41 PM

ok thank you.

mixxer · 07-24-2008, 08:41 AM

yep... good info....

personally i prefer the power of the HC S2 for 90% of all my riding in michigan.....

i test with all sorts of cams...but when i ride my own machines i am riding with a HC S2..... for exactly the reason of the extra\early torque.....

in my own riding, i am much more likely to be accelerating FROM midrange TO the POWER PEAK.....than running FROM the PEAK to the REV LIMITER.....

you have to evaluate your own riding and riding style...and then cam appropriately....

hope that helps....

BLK450 · 07-24-2008, 12:23 PM

yes it does thank you, just want to be sure i make the right choice,i know i loved stg3 with the 480.

mixxer · 07-28-2008, 07:37 AM

the S2 will help a 450 feel a bit more like a 480 in the low to mid range power

07-21-2008, 07:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
BLK450 250EX Rider Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wendell, NC Posts: 183	well right now i'm still running my hc3 that i had with with my 480 kit, but because of my recent bearing failure force me to go back to stock bore just wondering if it would benefit me to run the hc2 with my new setup, and what would be the pro and cons of either, i have already notice a little loss of the bottom end grunt that had with my 480, any input is much appreciated, to help me make up my mind. __________________ CHAD 05 TRX450R BLACK ALBA NERF BARS VENOM PISTON 14.1 VENOM PORT AND POLISH KW VALVES +1 EXHAUST VENOM EXHAUST KW HD SPRING KIT PRO DESIGN PRO FLOW FILTER REMOVE AIRBOX LID HC STAGE 3 LONESTAR CHROME 1.25 EXTENDED SWING ARM ITP C-SERIES WHEELS VACCUM TEE MOD 13T FRONT 38T REAR FASST FLEXX BARS LONESTAR BAR CLAMP LONESTAR +1 EXTENDED ANTI VIPE STEERING STEM

07-21-2008, 08:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
BLK450 250EX Rider Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wendell, NC Posts: 183	never mind i just read one of the other post in your section, i think the stg2 will be the better choice for me, i guess that will be my next thing on my list. __________________ CHAD 05 TRX450R BLACK ALBA NERF BARS VENOM PISTON 14.1 VENOM PORT AND POLISH KW VALVES +1 EXHAUST VENOM EXHAUST KW HD SPRING KIT PRO DESIGN PRO FLOW FILTER REMOVE AIRBOX LID HC STAGE 3 LONESTAR CHROME 1.25 EXTENDED SWING ARM ITP C-SERIES WHEELS VACCUM TEE MOD 13T FRONT 38T REAR FASST FLEXX BARS LONESTAR BAR CLAMP LONESTAR +1 EXTENDED ANTI VIPE STEERING STEM

07-21-2008, 09:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
sredish 450R Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Texas Posts: 8,862	i was going to say stay with the hc3... lol but...... i prefer a top end heavy powerband. I like the power to build not fall off. __________________ ........................................... <span style="color:#FF0000">450R Valve Shim Calculator. Thanks to CRFs Only. RedishConstruction.com

07-21-2008, 09:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
BLK450 250EX Rider Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wendell, NC Posts: 183	when say fall off you mean before rev limit. __________________ CHAD 05 TRX450R BLACK ALBA NERF BARS VENOM PISTON 14.1 VENOM PORT AND POLISH KW VALVES +1 EXHAUST VENOM EXHAUST KW HD SPRING KIT PRO DESIGN PRO FLOW FILTER REMOVE AIRBOX LID HC STAGE 3 LONESTAR CHROME 1.25 EXTENDED SWING ARM ITP C-SERIES WHEELS VACCUM TEE MOD 13T FRONT 38T REAR FASST FLEXX BARS LONESTAR BAR CLAMP LONESTAR +1 EXTENDED ANTI VIPE STEERING STEM

07-21-2008, 09:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
sredish 450R Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Texas Posts: 8,862	i mean i'd rather have peak power higher in the rpms and plenty of overrev rather than have the power fall off more after peak. __________________ ........................................... <span style="color:#FF0000">450R Valve Shim Calculator. Thanks to CRFs Only. RedishConstruction.com

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07-21-2008, 09:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
BLK450 250EX Rider Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wendell, NC Posts: 183	gotcha, i think i'm already missing the tq of the 480 so if i can run the stg2 i get some of that back it would just be that much better,i'm already loving the fast rev and how it loves the top end of the stock bore high comp. __________________ CHAD 05 TRX450R BLACK ALBA NERF BARS VENOM PISTON 14.1 VENOM PORT AND POLISH KW VALVES +1 EXHAUST VENOM EXHAUST KW HD SPRING KIT PRO DESIGN PRO FLOW FILTER REMOVE AIRBOX LID HC STAGE 3 LONESTAR CHROME 1.25 EXTENDED SWING ARM ITP C-SERIES WHEELS VACCUM TEE MOD 13T FRONT 38T REAR FASST FLEXX BARS LONESTAR BAR CLAMP LONESTAR +1 EXTENDED ANTI VIPE STEERING STEM

07-21-2008, 09:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
sredish 450R Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Texas Posts: 8,862	sounds like the stg. 2 is for you then... it will add some torque back in and probably be a good stump puller that revs out pretty good still. __________________ ........................................... <span style="color:#FF0000">450R Valve Shim Calculator. Thanks to CRFs Only. RedishConstruction.com

07-21-2008, 09:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
BLK450 250EX Rider Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wendell, NC Posts: 183	ok thank you. __________________ CHAD 05 TRX450R BLACK ALBA NERF BARS VENOM PISTON 14.1 VENOM PORT AND POLISH KW VALVES +1 EXHAUST VENOM EXHAUST KW HD SPRING KIT PRO DESIGN PRO FLOW FILTER REMOVE AIRBOX LID HC STAGE 3 LONESTAR CHROME 1.25 EXTENDED SWING ARM ITP C-SERIES WHEELS VACCUM TEE MOD 13T FRONT 38T REAR FASST FLEXX BARS LONESTAR BAR CLAMP LONESTAR +1 EXTENDED ANTI VIPE STEERING STEM

07-24-2008, 08:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
mixxer 450R Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the shadows, outside your periferal vision Posts: 13,229	yep... good info.... personally i prefer the power of the HC S2 for 90% of all my riding in michigan..... i test with all sorts of cams...but when i ride my own machines i am riding with a HC S2..... for exactly the reason of the extra\early torque..... in my own riding, i am much more likely to be accelerating FROM midrange TO the POWER PEAK.....than running FROM the PEAK to the REV LIMITER..... you have to evaluate your own riding and riding style...and then cam appropriately.... hope that helps.... __________________ Venom Performance 517 655-2870 SREDRUM Racing \Ohio \ Dyno Tuning 419 618-5982 KBR Sand Sspecialists 801 967-7100 ....learn to have some patience??!!......how long is THAT going to take??!!!

07-24-2008, 12:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
BLK450 250EX Rider Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wendell, NC Posts: 183	yes it does thank you, just want to be sure i make the right choice,i know i loved stg3 with the 480. __________________ CHAD 05 TRX450R BLACK ALBA NERF BARS VENOM PISTON 14.1 VENOM PORT AND POLISH KW VALVES +1 EXHAUST VENOM EXHAUST KW HD SPRING KIT PRO DESIGN PRO FLOW FILTER REMOVE AIRBOX LID HC STAGE 3 LONESTAR CHROME 1.25 EXTENDED SWING ARM ITP C-SERIES WHEELS VACCUM TEE MOD 13T FRONT 38T REAR FASST FLEXX BARS LONESTAR BAR CLAMP LONESTAR +1 EXTENDED ANTI VIPE STEERING STEM

07-28-2008, 07:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
mixxer 450R Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the shadows, outside your periferal vision Posts: 13,229	the S2 will help a 450 feel a bit more like a 480 in the low to mid range power __________________ Venom Performance 517 655-2870 SREDRUM Racing \Ohio \ Dyno Tuning 419 618-5982 KBR Sand Sspecialists 801 967-7100 ....learn to have some patience??!!......how long is THAT going to take??!!!