YFZ with Fuel Custom Intake - Honda TRX450R Forums: Honda TRX 450R Forum

Bad Habit · 01-22-2006, 07:59 PM

Just wanted to show this graph of a YFZ using the Fuel Custom Intake. Blue is all stock and red is the Fuel Custom (plus HotCams and Pulse Charger, so don't misinterpret the power gain as a sole result of the intake).

This is one of the flattest fuel traces you will ever see. You'll pull your hair out trying to get a line this smooth and consistent with other intakes, very impressive. I'm dying to see how one of these will work on a TRX.

depotman · 01-22-2006, 08:09 PM

The person who is getting that build is sure getting there moneys worth.

Nice post.

mixxer · 01-22-2006, 09:21 PM

there is a reason why all the factories choose to go with a wide diameter filter end and a constant taper to the carb bell.... quite a few reasons actually

the FCI intakes are taking over where the factories call it "good enough" and are going for all the extra they can get within the design limitations imposed by the frame\suspension

last summer Mr, Habit and i were discussing how to go about making such an intake....short of having access to an injection molding factory.....

but it seems as though FCI was already a step ahead..... all props to them

great mid to top curve....more of a plateau actually :)

Ticeman · 01-22-2006, 09:31 PM

The first set-up with the FCI was also flat like that but, that was on a VERY dialed in machine and I attributed it to the fact that I had worked extensively with this machine to get it there. This machine was done with baseline jetting from the last FCI install and one main jet change after the first pulls the machine made. A total of 13 runs!!! The first series of pulls was 8 pulls to get the machine up to operating temp. I rejetted and it took another 5 before it lost power due to heat soak. Simply AWESOME. I left it that rich purposefully and will dial it when in the spring before the first race.

That is a properly designed velocity stack, it just happens to have a turn in it.

Tony

mixxer · 01-22-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Ticeman@Jan 22 2006, 09:31 PM
That is a properly designed velocity stack, it just happens to have a turn in it.*

Tony

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:D i guess that about says it all

Ticeman · 01-22-2006, 09:36 PM

Comparison

WOW!!!

Where's the Honda's?

mixxer · 01-22-2006, 09:43 PM

i'm waiting very impatiently myself to try out a FCI setup on old Booster..... as soon as they are ready, i gotta have one!

Bad Habit · 01-22-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Ticeman@Jan 22 2006, 08:36 PM
Where's the Honda's?

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Umm, yeah, what he said :D

Ticeman · 01-22-2006, 10:00 PM

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I KNOW it's coming but, the Honda NEEDS help.

Tony

Bad Habit · 01-22-2006, 10:04 PM

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Ticeman · 01-22-2006, 10:05 PM

#8trx450r · 01-22-2006, 10:06 PM

I believe that garret said they would be about a month before they would be done, I am in line for one the FIRST ones

. Com'on Garret Git'em Done :D

mixxer · 01-22-2006, 10:07 PM

i know they know what they are doing enough to make a super one for the honda....

but actually the yamaha intake had more room for improvement..

on another topic....my Z400 needs one too....

the ESR i have on it is way too long with its single dia \ parallel wall section!!

#8trx450r · 01-22-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by mixxer@Jan 22 2006, 10:07 PM
i know they know what they are doing enough to make a super one for the honda....

but actually the yamaha intake had more room for improvement..

on another topic....my Z400 needs one too....

the ESR i have on it is way too long with its single dia \ parallel wall section!!

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Mix the YFZ one works on the Z's I do believe

mixxer · 01-22-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by #8trx450r@Jan 22 2006, 10:06 PM
I believe that garret said they would be about a month before they would be done, I am in line for one the FIRST ones* * . Com'on Garret Git'em Done* :D

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also important to Garret and Bro is having dyno runs with jetting info on all sorts of setups

so take a number and get in line

01-22-2006, 07:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bad Habit 450R Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: KC, MO Posts: 4,403	Just wanted to show this graph of a YFZ using the Fuel Custom Intake. Blue is all stock and red is the Fuel Custom (plus HotCams and Pulse Charger, so don't misinterpret the power gain as a sole result of the intake). This is one of the flattest fuel traces you will ever see. You'll pull your hair out trying to get a line this smooth and consistent with other intakes, very impressive. I'm dying to see how one of these will work on a TRX. __________________ Dan '05 450R - lot's of stuff '02 400EX - see above '02 90Kasea - "Blue Dragon" '06 90Kasea - flower stickers '70 Dude - lot's of miles but still runs '70 Blonde - handles great but requires lot's of upkeep '95 Lil Man - reliable and predictable '96 Chic - loud and uncontrollable

01-22-2006, 08:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
depotman Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 2,484	The person who is getting that build is sure getting there moneys worth. Nice post. __________________ The Problem With Socialism Is You Eventually Run Out Of Other People's Money. - Margaret Thatcher

01-22-2006, 09:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
mixxer 450R Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the shadows, outside your periferal vision Posts: 13,229	there is a reason why all the factories choose to go with a wide diameter filter end and a constant taper to the carb bell.... quite a few reasons actually the FCI intakes are taking over where the factories call it "good enough" and are going for all the extra they can get within the design limitations imposed by the frame\suspension last summer Mr, Habit and i were discussing how to go about making such an intake....short of having access to an injection molding factory..... but it seems as though FCI was already a step ahead..... all props to them great mid to top curve....more of a plateau actually :) __________________ Venom Performance 517 655-2870 SREDRUM Racing \Ohio \ Dyno Tuning 419 618-5982 KBR Sand Sspecialists 801 967-7100 ....learn to have some patience??!!......how long is THAT going to take??!!!

01-22-2006, 09:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ticeman 450R Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fields of Dreams, lots of them! Posts: 3,548	The first set-up with the FCI was also flat like that but, that was on a VERY dialed in machine and I attributed it to the fact that I had worked extensively with this machine to get it there. This machine was done with baseline jetting from the last FCI install and one main jet change after the first pulls the machine made. A total of 13 runs!!! The first series of pulls was 8 pulls to get the machine up to operating temp. I rejetted and it took another 5 before it lost power due to heat soak. Simply AWESOME. I left it that rich purposefully and will dial it when in the spring before the first race. That is a properly designed velocity stack, it just happens to have a turn in it. Tony __________________ Hi ho. Hi ho. It's off to work we go......... You can drink an ugly girl pretty but you can't drink a fat girl thin...........Jeff Daniels You can fix ugly but, you can't fix stupid...............Ron White

01-22-2006, 09:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ticeman 450R Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fields of Dreams, lots of them! Posts: 3,548	Comparison WOW!!! Where's the Honda's? __________________ Hi ho. Hi ho. It's off to work we go......... You can drink an ugly girl pretty but you can't drink a fat girl thin...........Jeff Daniels You can fix ugly but, you can't fix stupid...............Ron White

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01-22-2006, 09:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
mixxer 450R Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the shadows, outside your periferal vision Posts: 13,229	i'm waiting very impatiently myself to try out a FCI setup on old Booster..... as soon as they are ready, i gotta have one! __________________ Venom Performance 517 655-2870 SREDRUM Racing \Ohio \ Dyno Tuning 419 618-5982 KBR Sand Sspecialists 801 967-7100 ....learn to have some patience??!!......how long is THAT going to take??!!!

01-22-2006, 10:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ticeman 450R Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fields of Dreams, lots of them! Posts: 3,548	__________________ Hi ho. Hi ho. It's off to work we go......... You can drink an ugly girl pretty but you can't drink a fat girl thin...........Jeff Daniels You can fix ugly but, you can't fix stupid...............Ron White

01-22-2006, 10:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
#8trx450r Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 2,372	I believe that garret said they would be about a month before they would be done, I am in line for one the FIRST ones . Com'on Garret Git'em Done :D

01-22-2006, 10:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
mixxer 450R Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the shadows, outside your periferal vision Posts: 13,229	i know they know what they are doing enough to make a super one for the honda.... but actually the yamaha intake had more room for improvement.. on another topic....my Z400 needs one too.... the ESR i have on it is way too long with its single dia \ parallel wall section!! __________________ Venom Performance 517 655-2870 SREDRUM Racing \Ohio \ Dyno Tuning 419 618-5982 KBR Sand Sspecialists 801 967-7100 ....learn to have some patience??!!......how long is THAT going to take??!!!